True.

You are far more patient in debating with Neil than I am!  :)

Read sir.  I answered the question. 

 I told you what MY mentors think, 

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Flat-earthism is all about emotion. There is no reason, observation, thinking or logic involved.
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It's all about how you FEEL.
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Flat-earthism is feminism.
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Just something out of left field here....but the book of Enoch isn't considered scripture is it?

And you think this explains the supermoon?

Well, you're doing fine. The globe earthers just make me mad now.

This is a great thread, since it's explaining some of the basics of how the flat earth works, and how the NASA, Copernican, and Galileo models are wrong, for those that may be lurking and trying to learn about it.

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The post wasn't worth a reply because of its redundancy. All this has already been settled.
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No, Carissima made no great points. Your saying she did needs to be addressed.
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Carissima's quote:.
Wrong.
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The appearance of the horizon does not prove the earth is "flat." Any very large sphere viewed that way will have a "flat" appearance. The problem with these kinds of photos is, they do not provide any reference to where a level line of sight appears in regards to the horizon line. From a low promontory the horizon line can be very close to the level line such that they may appear to be indistinguishable, but if your scope is powerful and your level line accurate, you will see the level line is always above the horizon even if it's a small amount.
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A favorite flat-earther canard here is "The horizon rises to the level of the viewer." -- That's FALSE. The horizon does not "rise" anywhere. It stays right where it is. It is the VIEWER whose LINE OF SIGHT DESCENDS to the lower position of the horizon, and the viewer, not using a level instrument to keep the level line a KNOWN LOCATION is failing -- or fooling himself to THINK that the horizon is "rising" when in fact it remains where it is, and the viewer is casting his eye DOWN to meet it.
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Likewise, no such observation can be made from an airborne vantage point like a weather balloon or while free-falling like sky divers do, because the instrument cannot keep a steady sight on what level is when the wind is buffeting everything in contact with it. An honest observer needs to have solid ground upon which to set up his instrument.
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Therefore, the inquiring researcher who actually wants to know the truth will prefer to select a very high point of land from which to make observations. That's the reason for using the top of a high mountain, and if possible, the highest mountain within 200 miles. From such a vantage point, the honest observer will always find that his level line is most clearly ABOVE all other land objects, including but not limited to the tops of other high mountains within sight.
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What "insults" are you referring to? I have asked these questions numerous times and the only answers I get are "insults" like the ones (apparently) that you're accusing ME of, but they're coming from flat-earthers. I ask specific questions, and the flat-earthers insult me, while they accuse me of insulting them. How Jєωιѕн of you -- but then, it's Chanukah time again!
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If questions you cannot answer constitute "insults against people's intelligence" then you need to learn what it means to discuss or debate an issue. Because by your not answering the questions and instead your accusing me of insults, you're proving that you cannot think. That is what logic is for, to show the participant is capable of thinking. But you fail.
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Whether NASA lies or not (I'm not saying they don't lie) has nothing to do with the questions I have been asking. You're jumping topic like a Protestant.  I'm not saying to rely on NASA for answers. I'm saying these are things you can do YOURSELF to find the TRUTH, which truth is the reality that you observe with your own eyes when you follow the steps I have provided, which are very simple steps. But flat-earthers do not dare follow the steps I have provided. This fact alone is very conspicuous. Flat-earthers, like Protestants, keep trying to change the topic by veering off to another topic. It makes them appear (like Protestants) to be able to recognize where the steps will be taking them, and upon realizing the fact of where they lead and not wanting to face the truth, they veer off course and go down into other areas where they can stay far away from the necessary conclusion -- the truth.
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Like I said, flat-earthers love to change the topic.  This has nothing to do with fidelity in marriage. This is simply observation and logical thinking. I know that's really hard for some, especially women. But it's your choice to enter this discussion.
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Where did I say you have to believe NASA? I know there have been other posters who accuse me of that, but it's a lie. I have never said anyone should believe anything NASA ever provided. And I never will.
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You can learn your OWN earth science by making your OWN observations. You might not be able to travel worldwide to see things first hand but there are a lot of sources OTHER THAN NASA to give you data you can trust, for example look at photographs of areas near where you live and see if they have been "faked" -- if not, then the photographer who provided them very likely has also provided reliable photos of places not near where you live. And so on.
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If you want to read Scripture, that's fine, but if you want to know things that Scripture is not capable of providing, it's foolish to look there for your answers. To find out the specific gravity of potassium, for example, looking in Scripture would be foolish, in fact, attempting to measure it on your own would likely also be foolish, since potassium explodes upon contact with water, and specific gravity is the measurement of a material's weight when submerged in water. So don't even go there.
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Or if you want to know a particular person's phone number and address, don't bother looking in the Bible. You can use social media, or ask a friend, or look in the phone book (we used to have phone books, you know).
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Likewise, to find out what the full moon looks like at midnight, just step outside on a clear night and open your eyes looking upwards. Too much to ask? I have yet to see any flat-earther reply here saying they have looked at the full moon at midnight. Maybe they're afraid of practicing witchcraft or whatever. I don't know, they haven't given any coherent answer. Do you have an intelligent answer to that question? Have you ever seen the full moon at midnight in a clear sky? We just had several nights last week when that happened, in fact it was a great and rare event to see the supermoon at midnight. Did you miss it? I gave plenty of advance notice. But no intelligent reply was forthcoming.
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Who's intelligence is being insulted therefore?
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What the sun and moon do has A LOT to do with whether there is curvature on the earth. We observe what the sun and moon do from the vantage point of the earth's surface, CONSEQUENTLY (that means directly related to) how the sun and moon appear at the SAME TIME from any of numerous different places on the earth's surface CAN tell us A LOT about how far away they are, what their geometric positioning is (using Euclidean geometry, nothing difficult or obscure), what their angular velocity is, what their relative SIZE is (measured by degrees of arc), and what their astronomical coordinates are. Using this data we can use logic and reason to construct an appropriate model of the earth's surface that conforms to the data. Have you ever noticed that flat-earthers never invoke astronomical coordinates? Why do you suppose that is? Anyone can pinpoint where precisely to look in the sky to find a particular star at a certain time using them, but flat-earthers ignore the topic like it's kryptonite to Superman.
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Have you ever wondered why?
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Or, which I expect is the reason, you wouldn't dare question your flat-earth mentors because to you, they're beyond that.
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