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    It was really funny to see that, and it might be really funny to see what they have to say about the supermoons of these two months.
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    You've missed the discussion, apparently.
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    If you can think, you can understand the earth is not "flat" but if you can't think, then, whatever.
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    Globalists don't think, they drink the kool aid provided and call it truth.


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  • Globalists don't think, they drink the kool aid provided and call it truth.
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    Prove that flat-earthers think. Here's the proof:
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    Explain where the sun is when you look up at the full moon at midnight.
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    BTW I don't expect a coherent reply. Prove me wrong.
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    Tomorrow is this month's full moon. It's a great opportunity to observe reality, that is, for those interested in learning the truth.
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    There never has been, and there never will be, any flat-earther who can explain the full moon.
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    But tomorrow is a special case.
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    Tomorrow will be a rare full moon, called the "full supermoon" -- when the moon is at its closest distance to earth, and will appear about 7% larger than usual. This will be closest to the moon's perigee. But if you somehow miss this one, you'll get two more chances with the two supermoons in January, 2018.
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    http://earthsky.org/?p=268284
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    Flat-earthers don't understand parigee or supermoon, because they don't want to understand.
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    The Virtual Telescope Project in Rome, Italy will provide an online viewing of the December 3, 2017 supermoon, as it rises above Rome’s legendary monuments, with audio commentary by astrophysicist Gianluca Masi. Click here to join the show. The show starts December 3, 2017 at 16:00 UTC; translate UTC to your time zone.
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    This month, the full moon and lunar perigee – the moon’s closest point to Earth in its orbit – happen less than one day apart. The full moon comes on December 3, at 15:47 Universal Time (UTC), and lunar perigee takes place on December 4 at 8:42 UTC.This is in great contrast to the year’s farthest and smallest full moon on June 9, 2017, which closely aligned with lunar apogee – the moon’s farthest point from Earth in its monthly orbit. The June 2017 full moon was 252,443 miles (406,268 km) distant – or nearly 30,000 miles (50,000 km) farther away than this December 2017 full moon.The December 2017 supermoon features the first of three full moon supermoons in succession. The two full moons in January 2018 – on January 2 and 31 – also count as supermoons. As is typically the case, the second of these three full moon supermoons most closely coincides with lunar perigee, showcasing the closest and largest supermoon in this series of three.


    Earlier, I ran 11 miles on a nice trail in the night with clear skies during this moon. It was great. I meditated on Canticle of Canticles 6:9 and what St. Louis De Montfort said about Mary being "fair and gentle as the moon, which receives the light of the sun, and tempers it to make it more suitable to our capacity."

    She illuminates our path and guides us when we are surrounded by darkness.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Prove that flat-earthers think. Here's the proof:
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    Explain where the sun is when you look up at the full moon at midnight.
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    BTW I don't expect a coherent reply. Prove me wrong.
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    Enoch and Cosmas say the sun moves behind a portion of the earth.  I know the limits of my understanding and I admit I do not know where the sun goes at night.  But I would rather believe Enoch and Cosmas than NASA, Copernicus or Galileo who say the sun is 93,000,000 miles away.  How can the sun be nearly a trillion miles away and still be under the firmament of which scripture is so descriptive?


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  • Earlier, I ran 11 miles on a nice trail in the night with clear skies during this moon. It was great. I meditated on Canticle of Canticles 6:9 and what St. Louis De Montfort said about Mary being "fair and gentle as the moon, which receives the light of the sun, and tempers it to make it more suitable to our capacity."

    She illuminates our path and guides us when we are surrounded by darkness.
    And you think this explains the supermoon? 

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    You've missed the discussion, apparently.
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    If you can think, you can understand the earth is not "flat" but if you can't think, then, whatever.
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    LOL :laugh1: oh Mr Neil..
    Your response to a 360 degree photo of hundreds of miles of continuous flat land is that ‘flat earthers can’t think’? ‘the earth is round it’s as plain as the nose on their face’..right?
    It’s OK, keep going on with your insults against people’s intelligence simply because they accept TRUTH and COMMON SENSE as it is presented to them and everyone will know you have no argument whatsoever. Really this has been your theme for awhile and it’s tired, put it to rest already, and please go study more. Those of us who have put the time in to undo our indoctrination ‘do think’. 
    My whole life NASA lied to me and everyone else, so should I let them continue to vomit lies and not expose them and their false religion of science? Certainly not!
    A father is not a loving father no matter how wonderful he is with the children if he’s cheating on the mother with another woman!
    Would anyone learn love, loyalty and respect from that willfully dishonest man? Um, no. 
    I know I won’t be learning my Earth Science from NASA or any other Darwinian globalists. I’ve already started over, and with the simplicity of Scripture. Enoch and Cosmas explain God’s creation much different than modern science and it flows in a very natural way, and fitting together with Scripture perfectly. It actually makes sense. 

    Oh and by the way, the sun and moon can do whatever they were designed to do, but they have ZERO to do with the fact that there is NO CURVATURE to account for Mankind living and walking around on a sphere. 
    Jesus Acsended into Heaven straight up, not sideways. 

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  • LOL :laugh1: oh Mr Neil..
    Your response to a 360 degree photo of hundreds of miles of continuous flat land is that ‘flat earthers can’t think’? ‘the earth is round it’s as plain as the nose on their face’..right?
    It’s OK, keep going on with your insults against people’s intelligence simply because they accept TRUTH and COMMON SENSE as it is presented to them and everyone will know you have no argument whatsoever. Really this has been your theme for awhile and it’s tired, put it to rest already, and please go study more. Those of us who have put the time in to undo our indoctrination ‘do think’.
    My whole life NASA lied to me and everyone else, so should I let them continue to vomit lies and not expose them and their false religion of science? Certainly not!
    A father is not a loving father no matter how wonderful he is with the children if he’s cheating on the mother with another woman!
    Would anyone learn love, loyalty and respect from that willfully dishonest man? Um, no.
    I know I won’t be learning my Earth Science from NASA or any other Darwinian globalists. I’ve already started over, and with the simplicity of Scripture. Enoch and Cosmas explain God’s creation much different than modern science and it flows in a very natural way, and fitting together with Scripture perfectly. It actually makes sense.

    Oh and by the way, the sun and moon can do whatever they were designed to do, but they have ZERO to do with the fact that there is NO CURVATURE to account for Mankind living and walking around on a sphere.
    Jesus Acsended into Heaven straight up, not sideways.
    Bravo! This was so well said.  Glad to have thinking people in this thread! It is most certainly a matter of Faith because it's scriptural, sourced from tradition, and true science agrees with simple proofs that there is no curve.  Regarding truth on just a couple of aspects of Copernicanism, St. Robert Bellarmine says:
    “to affirm that the sun really is fixed in the center of the heavens...and the earth... revolves with great speed around the sun, is a very dangerous thing…by injuring our holy faith and rendering the Holy Scriptures false.


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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat on Yesterday at 06:12:20 PM
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    Prove that flat-earthers think. Here's the proof:
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    Explain where the sun is when you look up at the full moon at midnight.
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    BTW I don't expect a coherent reply. Prove me wrong.
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    Enoch and Cosmas say the sun moves behind a portion of the earth.  I know the limits of my understanding and I admit I do not know where the sun goes at night.  But I would rather believe Enoch and Cosmas than NASA, Copernicus or Galileo who say the sun is 93,000,000 miles away.  How can the sun be nearly a trillion miles away and still be under the firmament of which scripture is so descriptive?
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    Why do you bother posting a reply when you won't answer the question?
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    Prove that flat-earthers can think by answering the question.
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    So far, you're proving that flat-earthers CANNOT think.

    Explain where the sun is when you're looking at the full moon at midnight. 
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    Answer the question.
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  • Enoch and Cosmas say the sun moves behind a portion of the earth.  I know the limits of my understanding and I admit I do not know where the sun goes at night.  But I would rather believe Enoch and Cosmas than NASA, Copernicus or Galileo who say the sun is 93,000,000 miles away.  How can the sun be nearly a trillion miles away and still be under the firmament of which scripture is so descriptive?

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    Why do you bother posting a reply when you won't answer the question?
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    Prove that flat-earthers can think by answering the question.
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    So far, you're proving that flat-earthers CANNOT think.
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    Explain where the sun is when you're looking at the full moon at midnight.
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    Answer the question.
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    Read sir.  I answered the question.  I told you what MY mentors think, but that I haven't concluded yet (for lack of information), which I certainly will never accept from pagan freemasonic NASA.  Just because you drink their koolaid doesn't mean you know where the sun goes either.  The problem for you is that when the proofs get kindergarten-easy like water surface unable to curve, or lack of curve, or the horizon rising to the eye of the viewer in spite of height, well, all discussion is suddenly deflected by you.      

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  • Enoch and Cosmas say the sun moves behind a portion of the earth.  I know the limits of my understanding and I admit I do not know where the sun goes at night.  But I would rather believe Enoch and Cosmas than NASA, Copernicus or Galileo who say the sun is 93,000,000 miles away.  How can the sun be nearly a trillion miles away and still be under the firmament of which scripture is so descriptive?

    A very good question, which Neil has yet to answer. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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  • A very good question, which Neil has yet to answer.
    Neil always gets answers then denies it, but never provides them.

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  • LOL :laugh1: oh Mr Neil..
    Your response to a 360 degree photo of hundreds of miles of continuous flat land is that ‘flat earthers can’t think’? ‘the earth is round it’s as plain as the nose on their face’..right?
    It’s OK, keep going on with your insults against people’s intelligence simply because they accept TRUTH and COMMON SENSE as it is presented to them and everyone will know you have no argument whatsoever. Really this has been your theme for awhile and it’s tired, put it to rest already, and please go study more. Those of us who have put the time in to undo our indoctrination ‘do think’.
    My whole life NASA lied to me and everyone else, so should I let them continue to vomit lies and not expose them and their false religion of science? Certainly not!
    A father is not a loving father no matter how wonderful he is with the children if he’s cheating on the mother with another woman!
    Would anyone learn love, loyalty and respect from that willfully dishonest man? Um, no.
    I know I won’t be learning my Earth Science from NASA or any other Darwinian globalists. I’ve already started over, and with the simplicity of Scripture. Enoch and Cosmas explain God’s creation much different than modern science and it flows in a very natural way, and fitting together with Scripture perfectly. It actually makes sense.

    Oh and by the way, the sun and moon can do whatever they were designed to do, but they have ZERO to do with the fact that there is NO CURVATURE to account for Mankind living and walking around on a sphere.
    Jesus Acsended into Heaven straight up, not sideways.

    I agree with happenby. Well said, especially the last sentence. Our Lord would have to ascend into Heaven sideways, according to the globe earth theory. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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  • Neil always gets answers then denies it, but never provides them.

    True.

    You are far more patient in debating with Neil than I am!  :)
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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  • I agree with happenby. Well said, especially the last sentence. Our Lord would have to ascend into Heaven sideways, according to the globe earth theory.
    You were responding to Carissima, but she did express some great points.