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Re: Flat earth book by us
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2026, 05:50:36 PM »
Sad update. Amazon have pulled the book over some silly administrative issue.
Hopefully we will have it back up in a few weeks.


"Oh, Looky what the Goys are doing now... they got a new book"

"What is it....?  Holey schmoley... they're debunking our globology doctrine with their own unredacted scriptures!!!"

"This is too much!  Those uppity goyim are putting out anti-propaganda books!"  This is anti-Semitic."

"Yeah, that's right. Who published it?
Shut them down... shut Amazon down!

"Are you crazy... you can't do that, Amazon is a major contributor to the Sanhedrin. Besides, if you shut it down, the Goys will just get more publicity for the book."






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Re: Flat earth book by us
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2026, 06:36:51 PM »
I do disagree a bit with your sub-title.  I'd say that the earth is not a BALL.

I actually believe that the earth is a globe, like a snow globe.

I think that actually helps to expose perhaps THE major sleight of hand deployed by the Ballers, namely where every time one sees a reference to a sphere in a Church Father ... they claim it means NASA's ball.

As mentioned, I used to concede that most (not all, but most) Church Fathers believed in the ball earth, but then when I actually read the Patristic references cited by, say, Dr. Sungenis, it became obvious to me that it's NOT what they were talking about, but were clearly referring to the spherical shape of the enclosing firmament.


It's quite humorous that Dr. Sungenis uses Da Vinci's version of this Salvator Mundi pose, but if you look at Da Vinci's ... it actually show the same thing, where the top part of the ball actually has stars and blue (the sky), and only the bottom has the earth tones (the land).

That completely depicts Sungenis' own bias, where he sees THIS picture blow as proof for the NASA ball earth.  :laugh1:


See those 3 white spots in the blue part of the "globe"?  Yeah, most art critics say those are stars, and I think most agree on the constellation they represent (I forgt which one), but THIS is what Dr. Sungenis puts on the cover of his Flat Earth book as representing belief in the globe.

And this epic fail represents the same thing going on in the book, where every quote he sees that refers to a "sphere" he instantly reads into it the NASA ball.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Flat earth book by us
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2026, 06:45:21 PM »
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The three distinct spots on the glass orb in Leonardo da Vinci's Salvator Mundi are widely believed to represent the constellation Leo. Others argue they represent stars in the Southern Cross (Crux), which gained attention through explorers' accounts in the early 16th century.
  • Leo Theory: The three white dots are thought to represent the key stars in Leo—Regulus, Denebola, and Leonis—connecting to the lion's gaze.
  • Southern Cross Theory: Some research suggests these dots depict the constellation Crux, potentially referencing discoveries mentioned in Amerigo Vespucci’s letters.
  • Symbolism: The orb itself represents the celestial sphere of the heavens.
These interpretations add to the debated, mysterious nature of the orb in the painting.

So, if there are stars in the TOP of this globe Christ is holding, Dr. Sungenis ... how does this depict NASA's ball?  Last time I checked the Northern Hemisphere of the NASA ball did not have stars within it.

It's quite comical that the VERY COVER of this book is an epic fail. :laugh1: :laugh2:




Re: Flat earth book by us
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2026, 11:45:14 AM »

$18 on Amazon prime.

$36 on eBay Australia (yikes!)

Intend to write them a review.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Flat earth book by us
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2026, 12:55:45 AM »
Did Sungenis remove the stars from the original painting, using Photoshop or similar?

What a shill.

But yes, I've heard all the Catholics claim that this or that Church Father believed in the "globe", and in no case does their belief line up AT ALL with the NASA ball.

Has anyone even CLAIMED anything close to this? I mean, saying "the earth is a globe" is about as far from today's "NASA package" as the globe earth is from the flat earth. Let's not forget that virtually all atheists, and 100% of Scientism (false science) believers are globe believers. Once you embrace "flat earth", you're going to believe in God (or at least some god) who created the snow globe and everything inside and around it. But 0 flat earthers believe in abiogenesis. (life coming from non-life)

It's funny how many "scientists", "rationalists" and "science lovers" believe in abiogenesis. They talk about it like it's a thing. Have they never read about Louis Pasteur, who proved that life doesn't arise from non-life? His experiment with rotting meat, flies, and cheesecloth?

EVEN IF someone (say, a Church Father) wrote about the earth being "round", globe-believing Catholics would pounce on it and think that means the earth is a spinning ball. That is being read into it, because all of our minds are CHOCK FULL of propaganda on this topic from birth. In fact, the Fathers could simply say "earth" and instantly our minds would picture the Blue Marble. Again, because we have a serious bias, almost all of us, due to decades of intense propaganda. It would be a miracle if we DIDN'T have such a bias.

The only way I was able to break out was through 100% Reason. But even now, I have residual propaganda sloshing around in my own head. Instincts, tendencies, gut feelings, imagination -- you don't instantly lose all that. I experience a certain "comfort" or "normal feeling" when I think about the globe model, outer space, Star Trek Enterprise orbiting around a spinning ball "planet" -- even though the minute my rational mind engages, I can quickly and totally reject it as nonsense.