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Flat earth and transgenderism
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:14:52 AM »
I've been coming across various articles about the growth in belief in flat earth.  It sounds like, among traditional Catholic geocentrists, the majority used to believe in a spherical earth, as Catholics at the time of Galileo did. (Fr. Pfeiffer is an example.) But I've seen claims that flat earth is now the majority view for Catholic geocentrists.

Belief in flat earth also appears to be growing among fundamentalist Christians, not surprising for sola Scriptura heretics.  More surprising is that this is also seems to be a trend among seculars and recently celebrities have been "coming out" as flat-earthers.

I've been wondering about causes of the secular trend.  One possibility is a disillusionment with science.  Another idea I've considered is that Western culture has become completely detached from objective reality.  The rise of flat-earthism corresponds to the public acceptance of transgenderism - the idea that people choose their "gender".  ("Gender" is originally a grammar term, something that is arbitrarily assigned to words, varying from language to language.   Its use to replace the objective biological term "sex" was part of the assault on reality.)


If a man can choose to identify as a woman or a woman can choose to identify as a man, why not decide that the earth is flat just because one feels like it?  I think that seculars, lacking God and Christian principles, would be especially susceptible to flat-earthism.  It would be interesting to see some statistics.  I wonder if the trend is more prevalent among seculars than Catholics.  Now that I think about it, it would not be so surprising after all.


Offline Meg

Re: Flat earth and transgenderism
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 11:23:51 AM »

If a man can choose to identify as a woman or a woman can choose to identify as a man, why not decide that the earth is flat just because one feels like it?  I think that seculars, lacking God and Christian principles, would be especially susceptible to flat-earthism.  It would be interesting to see some statistics.  I wonder if the trend is more prevalent among seculars than Catholics.  Now that I think about it, it would not be so surprising after all.

Gee....how many flat-earth transgenders are there Jayne? Maybe you can do a poll!   :laugh1:


Re: Flat earth and transgenderism
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 11:41:02 AM »
Gee....how many flat-earth transgenders are there Jayne? Maybe you can do a poll!   :laugh1:
I would not expect to find any on CI.  I was speculating on whether the philosophical problems that underlie secular acceptance of transgenderism also play a role in secular flat-earthism.

I think that everyone here agrees that historically secular fe is associated with some rather unsavoury things.  

Offline Meg

Re: Flat earth and transgenderism
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 11:47:08 AM »
I would not expect to find any on CI.  I was speculating on whether the philosophical problems that underlie secular acceptance of transgenderism also play a role in secular flat-earthism.

I think that everyone here agrees that historically secular fe is associated with some rather unsavoury things.  

Yes, truth can be corrupted. It's been that way since since the beginning of the Church at Pentacost. Heresies crop up continually.

Karl Rahner's work is an example of the Modernist corruption of Catholic teaching. And yet that doesn't make Catholicism untrue. We still have access to true Church teaching. 

Re: Flat earth and transgenderism
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 12:04:23 PM »
Yes, truth can be corrupted. It's been that way since since the beginning of the Church at Pentacost. Heresies crop up continually.

Karl Rahner's work is an example of the Modernist corruption of Catholic teaching. And yet that doesn't make Catholicism untrue. We still have access to true Church teaching.
I am glad to see you agree that the fact that Rahner edited a collection of docuмents concerning Catholic teaching does not make the make the docuмents themselves untrue. (unless it can be shown he changed them in some way)