If a man can choose to identify as a woman or a woman can choose to identify as a man, why not decide that the earth is flat just because one feels like it?  I think that seculars, lacking God and Christian principles, would be especially susceptible to flat-earthism.  It would be interesting to see some statistics.  I wonder if the trend is more prevalent among seculars than Catholics.  Now that I think about it, it would not be so surprising after all.

I would not expect to find any on CI.  I was speculating on whether the philosophical problems that underlie secular acceptance of transgenderism also play a role in secular flat-earthism.

I think that everyone here agrees that historically secular fe is associated with some rather unsavoury things.  

I am glad to see you agree that the fact that Rahner edited a collection of docuмents concerning Catholic teaching does not make the make the docuмents themselves untrue. (unless it can be shown he changed them in some way)

I have not studied the question enough to say with certainty, although it seems likely from what I do know.  I have absolutely no cause to think that he would falsify historical sources.

Do you have any idea what Denzinger's reputation is like or how widely used it is?  It is under constant scrutiny by countless scholars who would pick up on the sort of inaccuracies being suggested.  And if such a thing happened it would be big news.

Heresy is certainly a great evil, but it is not sufficient cause to go about accusing people of random crimes with no evidence.

Yes, truth can be corrupted. It's been that way since since the beginning of the Church at Pentacost. Heresies crop up continually.

Karl Rahner's work is an example of the Modernist corruption of Catholic teaching. And yet that doesn't make Catholicism untrue. We still have access to true Church teaching.

I've been coming across various articles about the growth in belief in flat earth.  It sounds like, among traditional Catholic geocentrists, the majority used to believe in a spherical earth, as Catholics at the time of Galileo did. (Fr. Pfeiffer is an example.) But I've seen claims that flat earth is now the majority view for Catholic geocentrists.

Belief in flat earth also appears to be growing among fundamentalist Christians, not surprising for sola Scriptura heretics.  More surprising is that this is also seems to be a trend among seculars and recently celebrities have been "coming out" as flat-earthers.

I've been wondering about causes of the secular trend.  One possibility is a disillusionment with science.  Another idea I've considered is that Western culture has become completely detached from objective reality.  The rise of flat-earthism corresponds to the public acceptance of transgenderism - the idea that people choose their "gender".  ("Gender" is originally a grammar term, something that is arbitrarily assigned to words, varying from language to language.   Its use to replace the objective biological term "sex" was part of the assault on reality.)


If a man can choose to identify as a woman or a woman can choose to identify as a man, why not decide that the earth is flat just because one feels like it?  I think that seculars, lacking God and Christian principles, would be especially susceptible to flat-earthism.  It would be interesting to see some statistics.  I wonder if the trend is more prevalent among seculars than Catholics.  Now that I think about it, it would not be so surprising after all.