From the Globe Earthers: https://biblescienceforum.com/2023/05/02/the-flat-earth-psyop/

The Flat Earth Psyop

The talk addresses the Flat Earth phenomenon, identifying it as a distraction designed to mislead. With over 2200 years of evidence supporting a globe earth, the video encourages critical thinking. Check it out!

John Gideon Hartnett
May 2, 2023

Aristarchus, cosmography, Creation, eclipses, Eratosthenes, Eric Dubay, Flat Earth, geodesy, globe, iSpace lander, psyop, spherical earth

The following is a video of my talk on the current Flat Earth phenomenon that has swept the internet for the past 10 years. As a professional physicist I do find it astounding that such ideas are seriously entertained.

However I try to expose this as a psyop designed to distract and misdirect people, especially Christians, in this time when people have given up any faith in governments and authorities. As far as the shape of the earth though the science has developed on the globe model for at least the last 2200 years and it is solid. No evidence for a Flat Earth makes any sense. You decide for yourself!



Available also on my channels on Bitchute.com, Rumble.com and Brighteon.com.

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Recommended Content

• Is the Earth Flat? (from the same seminar)
• Solar Eclipse as Seen From the Moon: No Flat Earth
• Evidence Against a Flat Earth: Solar Eclipse Shadows Exmouth, Western Australia
• Flat Earth Kingpin Eric Dubay Exposed as a CIA Asset
• Job 38 and a Flat Earth
• The existence of the ISS refutes the flat-earth
• The earth is not flat and hangs upon nothing!

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Recommended Reading

• Book: Apocalypse Now: On the Revelation of Jesus Christ
• Book: Merchants of Death: Global Oligarchs and Their War On Humanity

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The assertion that a globe Earth is a "psyop" (psychological operation) by NASA is a conspiracy theory that is inconsistent with a vast body of scientific evidence dating back thousands of years.   The Earth's spherical shape is supported by observations and experiments from ancient times, long before NASA existed, and is continuously confirmed by modern technology and independent observations.

OP Tardop.

Started wth Grok, moved to personal attacks on Dubay, and graduating to some Bible-beating babbler who just makes stuff up based on his personal interpretation of things.

Who’s Grok? 

Was that an attempt to gaslight us?

If there is "truth" in the Flat Earth argument(s), that means the earth is likely flat. Evidence isn't just "Hm. That's interesting."
No, it leads to necessary rational conclusions.

Basic rational thinking, a functioning brain, requires a foundation in reality and truth. For example, the principle of non-contradiction. That principle is not something you can pass over if you feel like it, or say "Huh. Interesting." and move on, as if it didn't just smash and disprove logically a widespread deception, such as NASA's Big Bang spinning balls outer space cosmological paradigm.

I only need about a dozen pieces of hard evidence that NASA lies to us before I can be morally certain they are a deceptive agency.

But in fact I have several dozen such slam-dunks, as well as many hundred pieces of less-conclusive evidence. It all points to the same conclusion, however -- "NASA is full of lies up to their neck".

And there is *way* too much evidence for flat earth, and virtually NONE for the globe, which is why I'm forced to conclude the earth is flat. Virtually all the "evidence" for the spinning ball earth comes from NASA -- it requires trust in NASA as a source. I can't grant that, sorry.

Attempt to gaslight?  Nope, not at all.  I would not try to insult your intelligence (or that of Lad's) in such a nonsensical and dishonest manner.

Of course, there is truth in the Flat Earth arguments just as there is truth in the Globe Earth arguments.  What is at issue is which argument is true in its final conclusion, not whether either of them contains elements of truth.  As a matter of fact, one argument might contain falsehoods which are actually irrelevant to the argument itself.  Those falsehoods would not in and of themselves necessarily render the argument's final conclusion false.

I completely agree with what you say above regarding the principle of non-contradiction.  I have never denied that "mother of all principles" in the least.

The fact that NASA is an evil agency in many ways (not least of which is in some its major deceptions) which I would be the last to dispute, does not necessarily lead at all to the conclusion that when it says the Earth is a globe that it is lying about that.  (As you well know, the devil is a liar, but it can also quote and does quote Sacred Scripture.  That doesn't make the Sacred Scripture false, no more than if NASA says the Earth is a globe does it make the Earth flat.  BTW, if the C.I.A. pushes the idea of a flat Earth does that make the C.I.A. a reliable agency of the truth?!)

You say above that you have "several dozen such slam-dunks."  That's just verbiage.  Both FE and GE claim they have several slam-dunks.

You say, "And there is *way* too much evidence for flat earth, and virtually NONE for the globe, which is why I'm forced to conclude the earth is flat."  Do you even realize what a bizarre and utterly preposterous false statement that is?  Your disagreement with GE and non-acceptance of its evidence does not nullify or eradicate that evidence's very existence.

You assert: "Virtually all the "evidence" for the spinning ball earth comes from NASA -- it requires trust in NASA as a source. I can't grant that, sorry."  (I have no problem believing the truth told to me by a 5-year-old who says 2 plus 2 is 4; that does not require me to trust him when he says the tooth fairy is real.)  No need to be sorry if that is what you sincerely believe, but again your statement is preposterous on its face.  There are major countries besides the U.S.A., and there are all kinds of other schools and institutions that have carried out space, astronomical, and cosmological studies that have over many years come up with evidence for a Globe Earth -- some even before NASA was even founded.

Even a 10-year-old child could observe a solar eclipse and conclude that the Earth was a globe.  Flat Earthers may counter that by saying that no, that's only evidence for a circular flat Earth.  Well, actually that evidence could be used for either side and indeed it is used by both sides.  It's simply a matter of how you wish to interpret the evidence.  Whichever side you take, it is still evidence, evidence which has been out there since time immemorial and certainly before NASA ever came into being.
 

OTHER space agencies? You SURE you want to go there?
Have you SEEN any of their footage? It makes NASA look air-tight and flawless.

THIS ^^^

Solar eclipses aren't caused by the moon, by the way. Proof: solar eclipses where the moon is in the sky, somewhere else, at the time of the eclipse. Again, I didn't know such a thing existed UNTIL I STARTED RESEARCHING FLAT EARTH.


Interesting how that works.

Absolutely!  Do you deny that they exist, or do you simply say they are all acting in a big universal Globe Earth psyop with NASA to for whatever reasons to deceive us all that we live on a Globe Earth?

Many countries besides the United States operate their own space agencies—some with extensive capabilities similar to NASA’s, and others focused on specific scientific, commercial, or defense-related goals. Below are notable examples grouped by region:

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Major National Space Agencies

• Russia – Roscosmos (Russian Federal Space Agency): successor to the Soviet space program; responsible for crewed spaceflight, satellite launches, and international cooperation such as on the International Space Station (ISS).
• China – CNSA (China National Space Administration): operates human spaceflight (Tiangong space station), lunar and Mars exploration programs, and satellite systems.
• European Union (multi-national) – ESA (European Space Agency): includes 22 member states; conducts space science, satellite development, and exploration missions (e.g., with NASA on the James Webb Space Telescope).
• India – ISRO (Indian Space Research Organisation): active in satellite launches, planetary exploration (Chandrayaan lunar missions, Mars Orbiter), and commercial launch services.
• Japan – JAXA (Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency): engages in human spaceflight, planetary missions, and cooperation with NASA and ESA.

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Other National and Regional Agencies

• Canada – CSA (Canadian Space Agency): focuses on robotics (e.g., Canadarm), Earth observation, and ISS participation.
• United Kingdom – UK Space Agency: coordinates national space policy, research, and partnerships within ESA.
• France – CNES (Centre National d’Études Spatiales): one of Europe’s leading national space agencies and a major ESA contributor.
• Germany – DLR (German Aerospace Center): conducts research in space science, Earth observation, and aerospace technology.
• Italy – ASI (Agenzia Spaziale Italiana): works with ESA and NASA on satellites and planetary missions.
• South Korea – KARI (Korea Aerospace Research Institute): developing launch vehicles and lunar missions.
• United Arab Emirates – MBRSC (Mohammed bin Rashid Space Centre): operates the Emirates Mars Mission (“Hope Probe”) and astronaut program.
• Israel – ISA (Israel Space Agency): focuses on satellites and technology research.
• Brazil – AEB (Agência Espacial Brasileira): manages launch facilities and satellite development.
• Iran – ISA (Iranian Space Agency): develops small launch vehicles and satellites.

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You don't think there is one cabal that controls governments behind the scenes?

Capabilities similar to NASAs? You mean deception, like filming all the spacewalks using CGI and underwater full-scale facilities? You can even see occasional bubbles of air rising up to the surface while astroNOTs do their "spacewalks". It's a joke.

Now let's see some of the hilarious footage from these clown shows. Honestly, it's better for the Globe side to not mention these "other" space agencies. Their footage looks like cheesy 1960's sci-fi movies, only in color!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NMqDorE9KyE



Seriously, take your dignity back, and reject this nonsense. It's not too late.

Who was on the moon taking the footage of the landing?
Maybe the same person who took the image of the purported first step?