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Online St Giles

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Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 06:03:05 PM »
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  • They don't care, and are impervious to rational arguments and evidence.  They have their agenda and you're not going to be able to tear the ball out of their cold dead hand.  It's becoming more and more a waste of time to keep arguing with these fools, and to cast pearls before the swine.  That's not to say there can't be legitimate and rational disagreement, just that these types have made up their minds already and they will not leg go.

    You have spoken well of yourself, but why in the third person?
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    Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 06:08:48 PM »
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  • Don't forget that I was not raised in a tin-roof wooden shack in appalachia by toothless parents who were siblings, who were uneducated, simple, and taught me flat earth from childhood. That's what Globers tell themselves about Flat Earth proponents, because it makes them feel better.


    I don't know who you've been listening to or reading, but I never heard or read of a Globe Earth proponent speak or write about a Flat Earth proponent in those kinds of crude terms.  There may be some that do, but your sweeping across the board characterization of them all in those terms is not deserving of you but would be of some crude bombastic low IQ individual who simply wanted to win the day by that kind of idiotic caricature. 


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    Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 06:50:13 PM »
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  • The FACT is that I went to public school, graduated with decent grades, got good grades at a strict Seminary for 3 1/2 years, am a software developer by trade ("no dummy"), have been interested in "space" since I was 10, have been out in the world the whole time, and I know more about the Globe paradigm and "outer space" than most Globers. Most people simply haven't looked into it. JUST LIKE ME before I started investigating Flat Earth. In other words, most people believe in the Globe for a few simple reasons:

    Everyone around them believes it
    Movies and propaganda
    Authority (including school, college, etc.)
    Taught this from the first day of school, with the globe on the teacher's desk

    In short, they believe it out of IGNORANCE. It doesn't go any deeper than that. OF COURSE millions of people will be deceived in such a situation.

    I don't doubt your personal background as you describe it, but it proves nothing.  A highly educated and high IQ person might say the same or similar thing.  Listen up as Johnnie "170 IQ" Glober describes his background: "I went to public school, graduated with decent grades, got good grades at a strict Seminary for 3 1/2 years, am a software developer by trade ("no dummy"), have been interested in space since I was 10, have been out in the world the whole time.  After the seminary I went to M.I.T. on scholarship and graduated with honors.  I know more about the Flat Earth paradigm and outer space than most Flat Earthers. Most people simply haven't looked into it.  They just take it for granted that flat Earth is wrong. JUST LIKE ME before I actually started investigating Globe Earth and found out with hard evidence why exactly flat Earth is wrong. In other words, most people -- with estimates of firm believers in the U.S.to be around 2% to 4% --believe in it for the following reasons as stated below:

    Why Do Americans Believe in Flat Earth?


    Flat Earth belief in the U.S. is not driven by scientific evidence but by psychological, social, and cultural factors. It's often a gateway to broader conspiracy thinking, where rejecting Earth's sphericity symbolizes defiance against perceived elites. Surveys and analyses (e.g., from YouGov, UNH, and psychological studies) highlight these interconnected reasons, particularly among the religious, young, and lower-income groups:

    • Distrust in Authority and Institutions: Many view globe Earth as a hoax perpetuated by NASA, governments, and scientists to control people (e.g., hiding infinite land or resources beyond an "ice wall" in Antarctica). This ties into general anti-establishment sentiment, amplified by events like the COVID-19 pandemic or election skepticism. As one analysis notes, it's "a rejection of expertise" in favor of personal intuition. Lower-income respondents (<$40K/year) show higher rates (21% skeptical vs. 8% for >$80K), possibly due to economic alienation.
    • Religious Literalism: Over half of firm believers self-identify as "very religious," interpreting Bible passages (e.g., references to Earth's "four corners" or a firmament dome) as literal proof of flatness. This conflicts with "scientism," seen as atheistic. Evangelical or fundamentalist views frame round Earth as part of a secular agenda to undermine God (e.g., "God can't be above if He's also below"). However, religiosity alone isn't predictive once accounting for overconfidence in personal knowledge.
    • Social Media and Echo Chambers: Platforms like YouTube and X (formerly Twitter) fuel growth via algorithms recommending "proof" videos (e.g., horizon experiments or "Zetetic" methods prioritizing senses over math). Interest tripled from 2015–2018, with spikes around celebrity endorsements (e.g., Kyrie Irving, B.o.B.). Believers form "neo-tribal" communities, reinforcing identity and viewing dissent as persecution. One study of 300+ videos found they exploit culture wars, blending flat Earth with anti-vax or QAnon narratives.
    • Psychological Factors: The Dunning-Kruger effect plays a role—overconfident individuals with limited science knowledge dismiss experts while trusting flawed "DIY" tests (e.g., water not curving in a glass). It's tied to broader conspiracy proneness but anomalously lacks magical thinking (e.g., few also believe in UFOs). Youth (18–24) show higher openness, possibly from ironic online exposure or weaker science education recall.
    • Community and Identity: Conferences (e.g., Flat Earth International) and forums provide belonging, where believers feel empowered as "truth-seekers." Some enter via other cօռspιʀαcιҽs (e.g., moon landing hoaxes) and stay for the social bonds.


    In short, they believe it out of IGNORANCE.  It doesn't go any deeper than that. OF COURSE these Flat Earthers will be deceived in such a situation.







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    Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 07:09:12 PM »
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  • You don't think there is one cabal that controls governments behind the scenes?

    Capabilities similar to NASAs? You mean deception, like filming all the spacewalks using CGI and underwater full-scale facilities? You can even see occasional bubbles of air rising up to the surface while astroNOTs do their "spacewalks". It's a joke.

    Now let's see some of the hilarious footage from these clown shows. Honestly, it's better for the Globe side to not mention these "other" space agencies. Their footage looks like cheesy 1960's sci-fi movies, only in color!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NMqDorE9KyE



    Seriously, take your dignity back, and reject this nonsense. It's not too late.

    Seriously, this is your response as further "proof" of a flat Earth?!  Wow, talk about doubling down.  Well, at least you and the other half of the CI flat Earth tag team cannot be accused of a lack of persistence or defensiveness.  That definitely does not go unnoticed.

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    Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 08:18:30 PM »
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  • Seriously, this is your response as further "proof" of a flat Earth?!  Wow, talk about doubling down.  Well, at least you and the other half of the CI flat Earth tag team cannot be accused of a lack of persistence or defensiveness.  That definitely does not go unnoticed.

    So, I'll tell you what doesn't go unnoticed, namely, that you are a pernicious lying troll.  You know FULL WELL that the comment was in response to your assertion that other (non-US) space agencies are credible and was not proposed as a "proof" of a flat Earth.

    Even you can't be stupid enough to have such low reading comprehension skills, and therefore I judge you to be a pernicious lying troll.



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    Re: FE Psyop or GE Psyop?
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 10:21:19 PM »
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  • So, I'll tell you what doesn't go unnoticed, namely, that you are a pernicious lying troll.  You know FULL WELL that the comment was in response to your assertion that other (non-US) space agencies are credible and was not proposed as a "proof" of a flat Earth.

    Even you can't be stupid enough to have such low reading comprehension skills, and therefore I judge you to be a pernicious lying troll.



    Listen Lad, just because you are the NUMERO UNO SUPER 47,000 PLUS -- no one comes close -- MEGA CATHINFO  POSTER BOY  who just happens to have a distinct and well known proclivity for silly school boy/girl name calling as an intimidation put down tactic and who is now even resorting to low IQ memes that doesn't make what you say true.   So, I hope you can get over it -- especially your trying to win out by way of stupid ad hominum allegations of troll when the supposed troll upsets your rotten apple cart.