Personally for me it would depend on what it was, for example, the short video discussed earlier in this thread doesn't look to be AI or any trickery involved, so I think it's likely, also a hostile source so it helps a lot IMO but I could never know for sure unless I did it myself... That being said I think there are several proofs in it for a globe earth but also some interesting questions.

I also have to be aware of my own capabilities, so when they tried to use the maths and Earth curvature calculator, that's an argument that isn't going to help IMO, so I think we need to come up with things using modern technology that is accessible to the average person, that they can do themselves.

Personally I think the best arguments for myself are the two I've already mentioned

1) The fact that there is no such thing as an accurate 2D map of the world... as 2D Google Maps works fine for most of it but is totally broken for the North Pole for example and 2D maps of the North Pole can work fine for a while until you get to the Southern Hemisphere where the whole thing totally breaks down as it's massively warped (as I can know very clearly myself being in the Southern Hemisphere) if working outwards from the North Pole in 2D.

2) Then with a telescope we can see the Moon and some Planets and see that we are surrounded by Globes.

I'm sure there are some more too but I'd have to think of them and it depends where the person who believes in the flat Earth is at, I don't even know what the majority are thinking in terms of a flat Earth as there is no real world map picture of it in my head and I don't know what consensus if any there exists among this community, as there are certain things we should be able to rule out first as we progress the discussion IMO.

God Bless

Yes, I think you make good points. A few of my arguments are:

1) Actually seeing for myself the disappearance of objects over a large body of water when looking through a telescope. That is why no one should opine on this subject until and unless they have actually used a telescope. 
2) The rising and setting of the Sun, which can’t logically be explained without the Earth being a globe, unless you want to believe in the fairytale “spotlight”. Anyone with eyes to see and is honest would recognize that truth. 
3) The great accuracy of predicting solar and lunar eclipses and cycles using a global model, which cannot be replicated by any FE model as far as I know.
4) The perfect accuracy of measurements of oceans and land masses on a global Earth and the enormous inaccuracy of those measurements, which is glaringly obvious, on any FE model.

Yes, I think you make good points. A few of my arguments are:

1) Actually seeing for myself the disappearance of objects over a large body of water when looking through a telescope. That is why no one should opine on this subject until and unless they have actually used a telescope.
2) The rising and setting of the Sun, which can’t logically be explained without the Earth being a globe, unless you want to believe in the fairytale “spotlight”. Anyone with eyes to see and is honest would recognize that truth.
3) The great accuracy of predicting solar and lunar eclipses and cycles using a global model, which cannot be replicated by any FE model as far as I know.
4) The perfect accuracy of measurements of oceans and land masses on a global Earth and the enormous inaccuracy of those measurements, which is glaringly obvious, on any FE model.

1) That would be a problem for myself, as this is something I simply do not have realistic access to. In terms of using a telescope to look at the moon etc, I think this is a good start so at least we can rule out some things for a good starting point that the Moon and nearby Planets are all a globe which we can see first hand ourselves... telescopes shouldn't be that expensive and it's fun too... worth the money.
2) This one can actually be partially explained away by those using a 2D map of the North Pole and working outwards... because after all, a top down view of a circle and a globe isn't that dissimilar at first glance... but it totally breaks down in the southern hemisphere with how wrapped it is.
3) That's a good one IMO, but it wouldn't be a slam dunk if I were in their shoes IMO.
4) I agree, mainly that there is no such 2D map of the entire world that exists, as it always breaks down somewhere when attempting to use 2D, Google Maps for example breaks down at the North and South Poles... Only Google Earth works because it's 3D.

I also think Time Zones are another good one, but I'd still need to formulate it in my own words IMO and it depends what their thinking as 2) comes into play again IMO.

God Bless

Well, the trick is that to do something like that you'd have to find a place that's PERFECTLY flat.  If the thing were on a bit of a hill or down in a bit of a dip, the results would be invalid.  I wonder if we could find some place like that, where it's perfectly level for miles.  Most of the time people try to perform these experiments over the water, which is generally going to be level, but even then you might have issues with waves compromising its perfect level-ness.  That's why the focus is on larger objects, say, viewing a building or mountain from miles away, since it would take miles for the curvature to cover something bigger than that.  Then the problem withing being miles away is that people will claim "refraction" or "mirage" or something due to the atmospheric conditions in between.

So your experiment is definitely worth doing ... IF one can find a place that's perfectly flat/level the entire way.  I've seen people use frozen lakes to conduct some experiments.

My husband and I were reading up on refraction and light curves towards cold, so a frozen lake wouldn't help because the light would bend toward the ice and away from the warm air above (This is true for lasers as well).  I am not sure how that really effects things.  I have to do more study.

While I was trying to find the video my husband showed me last night.  I came across this video.  



Please just view with an open mind.  Thank you.

Please just view with an open mind.  Thank you.

Sure, though you won't look with an open mind at FE.  I've already gone through and debunked this video.  It's junk.

Show me the CathInfo post where you debunked it.

Oh wait!  You are going to say go find it yourself.

I think you’re catching on to his MO! Gaslighting and intimidation.

I think you’re catching on to his MO! Gaslighting and intimidation.

Nah, you're just liars and accuse me of doing that which you do.  I've spent hours debunking some of these garbage videos here on CI and it's not worth my time to do it over and over again for jackasses like yourself.  It's you who's gasslighting, idiot.  I could find it for you or if I can't find it, debunk it again, but it's an absolute waste of my time, since neither of you care or intend to actually pay attention to what I post.

Both you and Gray are just flat-out liars, posing as if you're actually examining this issue with objectivity or an open mind.

Go pound salt, you losers.  Stop wasting your time with these idiots, Pax.  I regret coming back here to deal with such idiots.  I'm gone for good this time.

False.  This demonstrates again that you haven't looked into the matter.

I'm speaking of my own experience, living at different latitudes throughout my life. Another effect that usually is overlooked is the fact that the sun's path throughout the day is not parallel when you compare different latitudes. For instance, in summer if you live in NY you see the sun rising in the NE following an elliptical path, getting more hours of day-light even though the sun is never at zenith north of the Tropic of Cancer. If the next day you travel south towards de equator, e.g. Costa Rica, the path becomes less elliptical, more circular, where you can see the sun rising closer to the East, with less hours of day light. At noon, the sun in Costa Rica will always be closer to zenith than in NY. From that perspective, the path of the sun for both cities "crosses" twice during the day. At the Equator, with just a few minute difference, day and night last 12 hrs each no matter the time of the year.