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Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2022, 03:51:48 PM »
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  • Great stuff. The infinite gap between nothing and something is very much overlooked by those in the evolutionist camp. And then when they try to pull the Aristotelian "eternal universe" angle, you just have to point out that it's impossible for there to be any change without a First Cause.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #2 on: August 11, 2022, 04:09:28 PM »
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  • Great stuff. The infinite gap between nothing and something is very much overlooked by those in the evolutionist camp. And then when they try to pull the Aristotelian "eternal universe" angle, you just have to point out that it's impossible for there to be any change without a First Cause.

    Yeah, they gloss over that part.  So how did all this complexity of life come from nothing?  They try to mask it by claiming, well, first it was just nothing that exploding into untold amounts of matter (even though that's philosphically impossible).  Then the random swirling organized itself.  Evolution is utterly preposterous every step of the way.

    I posted a video on the other thread that basically proved that even for a SINGLE CELL to form would be absolutely impossible through randomness and chance.  And from there you'd have to have this single cell somehow being smart enough to reproduce itself, and then the other cells it reproduced with would organize and work together somehow to form a more complex organism  It's absolutely and utterly ludicrous.

    But here's how people get snookered.  They're shown pictures of animals that look similar to each other.  And, ironically, the SUDDENLY find themselves in tune with statistics because, the odds are so low that two similar creatures would evolve independently, that one of them must have come from the other.  They never consider the possibility that the similarity (the common design) is due to having a common designer.

    Bottom line:  evolution is only believed by those who either 1) want to accept it because they simply don't want to believe in God and/or 2) they are simply dumbed down in school and believe the propaganda

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #3 on: August 11, 2022, 04:12:07 PM »
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  • This video didn't get any responses in the thread I started about it, but I thought it was amazing.  While this one takes a bit over nine minutes, this utterly destroys evolution at its very foundations.  I thought their little analogy with an amoeba carrying a single atom across the entire length of the known universe (if you grant that) drove home the point.


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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #4 on: August 11, 2022, 09:12:38 PM »
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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #5 on: August 11, 2022, 09:22:18 PM »
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  • Evolution was created by atheists who were and are today working very hard to eliminate Christianity to nothing  and remove God from everything.  
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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #6 on: August 12, 2022, 04:53:36 AM »
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  • Evolution is proof that God exists according to popes and 'educated scholars' of the Catholic Church since 1820. That is the real problem.

    Pierre Simon Laplace (1749-1827), a Catholic mathematician and astronomer, was fascinated by the order that existed in Copernicus’s solar system. This solar system, unlike a geocentric one, lent itself to the first related modern evolutionary theory, a supposed natural evolutionary gravitation of the sun, stars, and Earth from atoms, a Pythagorean heresy long condemned by the Fathers and Popes of the early Church.

    ‘A model of star and planet formation in which a nebula contracts under the force of gravity, eventually flattening into a spinning disk with a central bulge. A protostar [the sun] forms at the nebula’s centre. As matter condenses around the protostar in the bulge, planets are formed from the spinning matter in the disk. This theory is widely accepted to account for the formation of stars and planetary systems such as ours. The first version of the nebular hypothesis was proposed in 1755 by Immanuel Kant [small and cold particles evolved into a solar-system] and modified in 1796 by Pierre Laplace.’--- The Free Dictionary

    In 1820, Pope Pius VII took that same evolved heliocentric system on board the Catholic Ark, and said any who object face the wrath of the Inquisition.

    ‘The most excellent [Holy Office] have decreed that there must be no denial, by the present or by future Masters of the Sacred Apostolic Palace, of permission to print and to publish works which treat of the mobility of the Earth and of the immobility of the sun [the defined heresy in 1616], according to the common opinion of modern astronomers, as long as there are no other contrary indications, on the basis of the decrees of the Sacred Congregation of the Index of 1757 and of this Supreme [Holy Office] of 1820; and that those who would show themselves to be reluctant or would disobey, should be forced under punishments at the choice of [this] Sacred Congregation, with derogation of [their] claimed privileges, where necessary.’

    So, you were, and still are, in trouble with the popes of our Church if you do not accept an evolved solar system and thus evolution itself. And that is why no pope has ever condemned evolution, not even put Darwin's book on the Index. It then became necessary to show it was GOD who organised the absurd miracles for evolution. Thus Fr Hull, Fr Scott, Fr Brendan Purcell, Fr Paul Robinson and God knows how many more priests have convinced Catholics to believe in that theistic evolutionism. If you do not believe in 13.5 billion year 'Creation' then, as Fr Robinson says, you are a Protestant fundamentalist.

    ‘It is a duty for theologians to keep themselves regularly informed of scientific advances in order to examine if such be necessary, whether or not there are reasons for taking them into account in their reflection or for introducing changes in their teaching.’ --- Pope John Paul II’s response to Papal Commission findings, 1992.

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #7 on: August 12, 2022, 08:03:31 AM »
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  • I don't feel that rejecting Big Bang and cosmic evolution falls under the criteria of Pope Pius VII.  He seemed to be simply speaking about the questions of mobility.  Of course, he did rather perform a disservice by defending the immobility of the sun ... something that no one believes anymore ... while disgracing the Church with regard to the Holy Office decision at the time of Galileo.  He basically hung the Church and her reputation out to dry while kowtowing to his "modern astronomers" (who are now considered by MORE-modern astronomers to have been wrong about the "immobility of the sun").  Nor is the sun considered to be the center of the solar system, but rather the barycenter of the solar system, which sometimes (depending on the alignment of the planets) falls outside the physical boundaries of the sun, in which case the sun itself is said to be revolving around said barycenter.  So caving to the latest theories of "scientific experts" served to bring disrepute upon the Church.


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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #8 on: August 12, 2022, 09:45:07 AM »
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  • This video didn't get any responses in the thread I started about it, but I thought it was amazing.  While this one takes a bit over nine minutes, this utterly destroys evolution at its very foundations.  I thought their little analogy with an amoeba carrying a single atom across the entire length of the known universe (if you grant that) drove home the point.



    That was an awesome video, Lad. I saved it off.

    The video was awesome because it gave some meaning to that remote probability. 10 to the 164th power is beyond the conception of human beings. We're not wired to understand such mind boggling numbers. But to understand it in terms of a slow moving amoeba traversing the known universe -- now THAT gives it some meaning and context.

    10 I can conceive.  164 I can conceive. But 10 to the 164th power? Not at all, and all other human beings are with me on that. Humans don't "do" exponential. It's not intuitive to conceive of such things.
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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #9 on: August 12, 2022, 10:04:14 AM »
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  • Hey, all you dumb atheists, I'm still waiting for a tornado to pick up random material, swirl it around, and have it create a timepiece upon settling. 

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #10 on: August 12, 2022, 10:07:29 AM »
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  • Hey, all you dumb atheists, I'm still waiting for a tornado to pick up random material, swirl it around, and have it create a timepiece upon settling.
    At least create a Michelangelo painting or sculpture. 


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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #11 on: August 12, 2022, 10:12:58 AM »
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  • Hey, all you dumb atheists, I'm still waiting for a tornado to pick up random material, swirl it around, and have it create a timepiece upon settling.
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    At least create a Michelangelo painting or sculpture.
    All right .... all right ... can we at least have a bicycle wheel created by a tornado with random debris coming together? Can we at least have that? ,,,, you dumb atheists with diarrhea running through your Circle of Willis. 

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #12 on: August 12, 2022, 10:34:45 AM »
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  • Not only does that video destroy evolution, but it gives you an idea of length of eternity...wow.

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #13 on: August 12, 2022, 10:42:38 AM »
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  • Not only does that video destroy evolution, but it gives you an idea of length of eternity...wow.
    Imagine a solid iron ball the size of the earth, and an eagle flying around it while the tip if its feather continuously brushes against the ball. The amount of time it takes for the tip of the eagle's feather to wear away all of the iron ball is like eternity. 

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    Re: Evolution debunked in five minutes
    « Reply #14 on: August 13, 2022, 05:38:15 AM »
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  • Evolution is proof that God exists according to popes and 'educated scholars' of the Catholic Church since 1820. That is the real problem...

    So, you were, and still are, in trouble with the popes of our Church if you do not accept an evolved solar system and thus evolution itself. And that is why no pope has ever condemned evolution
    For Heaven's sake, have a little respect for logic... and the Papacy!

    This statement is complete and utter nonsense.

    The Pope is simply saying that there must be NO DENIAL OF PERMISSION TO PRINT works treating of the mobility/immobility of the Earth/sun based on said previous declarations of the Holy Office. In other words, it's not a dogma and it doesn't unsettle dogma - scientists must be left free to treat of the matter.

    Equating that with promoting Evolution is iniquitous.

    Great videos, thanks for sharing.