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Quote from: aryzia

What proof is there for a globe? I've watched several threads and haven't seen much that makes sense or isn't based on common thinking. As far as the R Sungenis artcle, there isn't anything that is reasonable. He only quotes people who think the earth is moving. And he contradicts himself several times. The notable Catholics of the past only speak of flat earth and say the globe is a pagan invention. Seems logical since the same people are still at it.

For me, the science of goedesy has established evidence of a global earth.

Geodesy (pronunciation: /d?i???d?si/), — also known as geodetics, geodetic engineering or geodetics engineering — a branch of applied mathematics and earth sciences, is the scientific discipline that deals with the measurement and representation of the Earth (or any planet),

‘The period from Eratosthenes to Picard can be called the spherical era of geodesy. ( Earth measurement on a large scale.)

The astronomer Giovanni Domenico Cassini (1625-1712), a man who can be said to be the last of the truly great Catholic geocentrists, was also a talented surveyor. In 1657 he was asked by none other than Pope Alexander VII to resolve a dispute regarding the flow of the River Reno between Bologna and Ferrara that was causing flooding. For the next six years Cassini was occupied with similar work around the Papal States.
Cassini opposed the evolutionary 'bulging' earth proposed by Isaac Newton. This was supposed to have been proven by Jean Picard in 1672. Cassini was determined to find real the shape of the earth.  King Louis XIV of France approved Cassini’s last great expedition. With the aid of his son Jacques Cassini and others, he measured the arc of meridian from Paris north to Dunkirk and south to the boundary of Spain, and, in addition, he conducted various associated geodesic and astronomical operations that were reported to the Academy. The Cassinis knew that it would be virtually impossible to measure every kilometre of meridian from Pole to Pole at the time [Does a flat earth have two poles?]. At best, a partial measurement would confirm a probable shape of the earth. Consequently they decided to measure where it was most convenient, restricting their efforts to Europe in the northern hemisphere.

The results showed the length of a meridian degree north of Paris was 111,017 meters or 265 metres shorter than one south of Paris (111,282 meters). This suggested that if this trend occurred in the southern hemisphere, the earth has to be a prolate spheroid, not flattened at the poles as Newton proposed, but the opposite, slightly pointed, with the equatorial axis shorter than the polar axis, that is, kind of egg-shaped. In 1720, the Cassinis published their findings.  

Wow, one guy against the entire Church of saints? Please.

Alas I have not the enthusiasm to work it out.

Insufficient love for truth is revealed in you here.

 the earth's shape can be judged by satellites above us..

But there is your biggest hurdle. We have all seen the rockets take off. We have seen men go into rockets and taken off. We have seen men die in such take-offs. We have heard men got to the moon where the shape of the earth can certainly be judged from.

The fact that men strapped themselves to a rocket has no bearing as proof we went to the moon. Rocketry is used in all sorts of AIR craft. It certainly does not mean some men went to the moon. There is ZERO authentic photos of earth from anything over several thousand feet in altitude.

Quote from: cassini

For me, the science of goedesy has established evidence of a global earth.

Geodesy (pronunciation: /d?i???d?si/), — also known as geodetics, geodetic engineering or geodetics engineering — a branch of applied mathematics and earth sciences, is the scientific discipline that deals with the measurement and representation of the Earth (or any planet),

 

Since you are interested in geodesy, then you should be interested in what this 30-year career land surveyor has to say.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/v=9BSKVE9pp60&t[/youtube]

He says there is NO ACCOUNTING for curvature EVER in the job of land surveying, which is the science of "geodesy" if you want to call it a pretentious word.

He built a one-mile long autmobile factory that included no accounting for curvature, and he built miles-long airport runways that did not account for any curvature whatsoever. This would be impossible if the earth was a globe. This is ONLY possible if the earth is in fact a flat plane.

I will give this thread one last post from me. As I said before, when credibility for a flat-earth theory depends on denying that there was ever a photograph taken of a curved or partially curved earth from a satellite, and that all space-flight is a global pretence involving thousands and thousands of liars, then do not expect many to conform.

The fact that all planets are globes, and that debris is not falling off them, shows me God has managed to create what we call gravity, a 'magical' means that has everything with the sky above and the ground undernearth.

Finally, the earth is so vast in size that no matter where you are on it, the curve is so little that its presence can only be detected over long distances, which explains why your surveyer cannot find a curve in a mile of it.  Cassini measured the curve over 500 miles and that was small enough.

Geodesy is a science, and it has evidence that the earth is curved. The actual shape of the curved earth may not be a proven fact yet but that a curve exists has been proved for hundreds of years now.