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Author Topic: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis  (Read 19401 times)

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Re: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2022, 07:18:03 PM »
On a totally unrelated and absolute sidetrack topic, when we're talking about the possibility of angels who are not pure spirits it makes me think how perfectly Tolkien captured such a nature in his Elves, who while being involved in the earth and helping men and fighting evil, also had an otherworldly feeling to them, as if they knew of their higher purpose.

Gen. 6:4 "sons of God" = Biblical elves.
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But seriously, that's actually a good comparison. As Tolkien was very well-versed in mythology on top of his Catholic Faith, so him drawing up such a creature from the amalgamation of the two is actually an interesting insight into just what Gen. 6:4 means.

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Re: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2022, 10:40:34 PM »
Spanish Stonehenge dated at 5000 BC.  This matches the EXACT time that Noah and the Giants were walking the earth.  Stonehenge structures are just massive satanic sacrificial areas, built by the pagan Giants.  Bible proved right again!



https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/spanish-stonehenge-drought/index.html


Re: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2022, 10:48:27 PM »
Spanish Stonehenge dated at 5000 BC.  This matches the EXACT time that Noah and the Giants were walking the earth.  Stonehenge structures are just massive satanic sacrificial areas, built by the pagan Giants.  Bible proved right again!



https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/spanish-stonehenge-drought/index.html
Awesome.

You should check out that episode of Ancient Aliens I shared a few pages back, that talk about the giants and megalithic structures too. Good stuff.

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Re: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis
« Reply #83 on: August 20, 2022, 10:46:26 AM »
Awesome.

You should check out that episode of Ancient Aliens I shared a few pages back, that talk about the giants and megalithic structures too. Good stuff.

Yeah, it's all fascinating stuff.  I think it was Anne Catherine Emmerich who said (through Brentano) that she saw these giants building such things.  But what she described exceeded even the capabilities of giants, and she said they had diabolical help.

I've long agreed that there's simply NO WAY human beings could have built some of these meglithic structures that we could not build today even with all our machinery without some kind of preternatural intervention ... or else some technology (anti-"gravity") that we do not have today (at least in terms of what the hoi polloi (or goy) are allowed to know about).

Re: Enoch, Church Fathers and the Giants of Genesis
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2022, 11:04:11 AM »
On a totally unrelated and absolute sidetrack topic, when we're talking about the possibility of angels who are not pure spirits it makes me think how perfectly Tolkien captured such a nature in his Elves, who while being involved in the earth and helping men and fighting evil, also had an otherworldly feeling to them, as if they knew of their higher purpose.
Since you bring up elves, one school of thought says they are demonic.

Making the Demonic User Friendly: Elves, Fairies, Gnomes, Leprechauns and the Like
fairy
Once upon a time, most common books of fairy tales, contained stories which featured
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dwarfs, dragons, elves, fairies, giants, gnomes, goblins, griffins, mermaids, talking animals, trolls, unicorns, or witches, and usually magic or enchantments
[Some of the other creatures in the fairy tales were pixies, sprites and elementals.]
ALSO featured were usually a few notable facts about such entities.
Such as
1- Most were NOT friendly to humans.
2- Most were involved in some sort of  “magic.”
3- Most caused trouble–particularly at night.
4- The stories were often about how humans could trick the entities into performing some service for the humans.
5- IF the entity was not able to be tricked, the humans would set out sacrifices (most usually food, alcohol or milk) in order for the entities to leave them alone.
THUS, most children of a certain age who had a knowledge of fairy tales also had a knowledge that the beings which were featured in these tales were not usually friendly to humans.
In fact, if one looks up most of these beings featured in fairy tales, it can be found that the people who composed the tales believed these elves, fairies and other similar beings to be demonic.
In other words, the authors of these fairy tales used the common folk names for demons: elf, fairy, gnome, leprechaun, etc.
Since most men have a natural aversion to demons, these supernatural, otherworldly creatures were thought to be an enemy–or at the least, an adversary–of man.
So how has modern man changed so? How has modern man taken such a fancy to elves, fairies, leprechauns and the like?
Modern man has been carefully taught that these demonic entities are friendly and cute.
TWO men in particular are responsible for most of this teaching.
Walt Disney, through his many cartoons and animated stories/movies and J.R.R. Tolkien with his many stories (such as Lord of the Rings) in which elves were the “heroes.”
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A famous witch once made the statement “I come from a family of witches. While you were learning the 23rd Psalm, I was reading Tolkien and CS Lewis.”
 —C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien: Heretical Fruits
Generations have grown up being read to and reading Tolkien’s fiction and watching the antics of the animated fairy, Tinkerbell.  And now, generations have the idea that elves, fairies and the like, are FRIENDS of man.
We will call it the Modernization of the Fairy Tale.
It’s just another service of the world: making the demonic user friendly.