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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2017, 10:31:01 AM »
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  • Give it a rest, Myrna. Everybody already knows how much you love the ba'al.
    "Everybody...."
    Such a lying ass you are.

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #76 on: October 09, 2017, 10:31:43 AM »
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  • Not another cartoon, well at least this is different from that other pagan art they worship.
    We Catholics will hear the words of the Virgin Mary when she designed her medal.  I am sure she knows the shape of the earth since she is the Queen of the universe.  BTW ... she said GLOBE. In fact, she held the globe in her hands so there will not be any mistake from the Pagan theory.
    Ma'am, flat earth geocentrism was long ago proven truth, reflects scripture perfectly and was defended by Catholics of note, as well as the Church, throughout the centuries in diverse ways.  Your ignorance of these facts leaves *you* in error.    


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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #77 on: October 09, 2017, 10:32:52 AM »
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  • Give it a rest, Myrna. Everybody already knows how much you love the ba'al.
    Give it a rest, Tradplorable.  Everybody already knows how much you love all the pagan beliefs. 
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #78 on: October 09, 2017, 10:37:31 AM »
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  • "Everybody...."
    Such a lying ass you are.
    Wow.  The Ba'al earthers are getting feisty for all their lack of proof for their pagan notions.  Not a single shred of support for their theories, they only know how to lob verbal bombs in a shameless defense of the heliocentric Godless evolutionary paradigm.  

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #79 on: October 09, 2017, 11:35:24 AM »
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  • Ma'am, flat earth geocentrism was long ago proven truth, reflects scripture perfectly and was defended by Catholics of note, as well as the Church, throughout the centuries in diverse ways.  Your ignorance of these facts leaves *you* in error.    

    I feel very secure from the holy voice of the Blessed Mother when she designed and gave a description of the earth by not only her words but holding the globe in her hands to the Canonized Saint Catherine.

    My dad would often say, that the Protestants can twist the words of SCRIPTURE to say anything that suits them, and so right he was.  R.I.P.

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    Tradpolarable >>> Give it a rest, Myrna. Everybody already knows how much you love the ba'al.

    To borrow a few choice words from your comrade-in-arms just above:  "Wow.  The Ba'al FLATES are getting feisty for all their lack of proof for their pagan notions.  Not a single shred of support for their theories, they only know how to lob verbal bombs."



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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #80 on: October 09, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »
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  • Again, just a demonstration of the total lack of humility to surrender themselves to God's Truth.

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #81 on: October 09, 2017, 11:55:26 AM »
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  • Again, just a demonstration of the total lack of humility to surrender themselves to God's Truth.
    Indeed.  The accusation may be hard to endure, but that makes it all the more reasonable to get to the bottom of it before spouting nonsense.  Obviously, that never crosses any of the detractors' minds who possess all the intelligence of a fire hydrant.  Smack it, it spouts.   

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #82 on: October 09, 2017, 12:00:46 PM »
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  • "On the globe was the word “France,” and our Lady explained that the globe represented the whole world"

    Our Lady did not give a description of the earth. She said that the globe represented the whole world. Read carefully. This is a reference to the universe. If she meant "earth" she would have said "earth". The world represents all of creation, and she is crushing the head of the serpent upon the firmament. The earth was considered to be the center of the world by the Church...
                                
                                                   Papal Condemnation (Sentence) of Galileo
    (June 22, 1633)
    Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vaincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, were in the year 1615 denounced to this Holy Office for holding as true the false doctrine taught by some that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable and that the Earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; for having disciples to whom you taught the same doctrine; for holding correspondence with certain mathematicians of Germany concerning the same; for having printed certain letters, entitled "On the Sunspots," wherein you developed the same doctrine as true; and for replying to the objections from the Holy Scriptures, which from time to time were urged against it, by glossing the said Scriptures according to your own meaning: and whereas there was thereupon produced the copy of a docuмent in the form of a letter, purporting to be written by you to one formerly your disciple, and in this divers propositions are set forth, following the position of Copernicus, which are contrary to the true sense and authority of Holy Scripture:
    This Holy Tribunal being therefore of intention to proceed against the disorder and mischief thence resulting, which went on increasing to the prejudice of the Holy Faith, by command of His Holiness and of the Most Eminent Lords Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the Sun and the motion of the Earth were by the theological Qualifiers qualified as follows:
    The proposition that the Sun is the center of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scripture.
    The proposition that the Earth is not the center of the world and immovable but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically and theologically considered at least erroneous in faith.

    You are the one not only twisting words, but replacing them.
    Don't change the subject you are showing your lack of confidence with the topic at hand.   Our Lady shows the shape of the earth is a globe.  
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #83 on: October 09, 2017, 12:01:41 PM »
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  • "On the globe was the word “France,” and our Lady explained that the globe represented the whole world"

    Our Lady did not give a description of the earth. She said that the globe represented the whole world. Read carefully. This is a reference to the universe. If she meant "earth" she would have said "earth". The world represents all of creation, and she is crushing the head of the serpent upon the firmament. The earth was considered to be the center of the world by the Church...
                              
        Papal Condemnation (Sentence) of Galileo
    (June 22, 1633)
    Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vaincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, were in the year 1615 denounced to this Holy Office for holding as true the false doctrine taught by some that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable and that the Earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; for having disciples to whom you taught the same doctrine; for holding correspondence with certain mathematicians of Germany concerning the same; for having printed certain letters, entitled "On the Sunspots," wherein you developed the same doctrine as true; and for replying to the objections from the Holy Scriptures, which from time to time were urged against it, by glossing the said Scriptures according to your own meaning: and whereas there was thereupon produced the copy of a docuмent in the form of a letter, purporting to be written by you to one formerly your disciple, and in this divers propositions are set forth, following the position of Copernicus, which are contrary to the true sense and authority of Holy Scripture:
    This Holy Tribunal being therefore of intention to proceed against the disorder and mischief thence resulting, which went on increasing to the prejudice of the Holy Faith, by command of His Holiness and of the Most Eminent Lords Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the Sun and the motion of the Earth were by the theological Qualifiers qualified as follows:
    The proposition that the Sun is the center of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scripture.
    The proposition that the Earth is not the center of the world and immovable but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically and theologically considered at least erroneous in faith.

    You are the one not only twisting words, but replacing them.
    The proposition that the Sun is the center of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scripture.
    The proposition that the Earth is not the center of the world and immovable but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically and theologically considered at least erroneous in faith.


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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #84 on: October 09, 2017, 12:28:38 PM »
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  •    Our Lady shows the shape of the earth is a globe.  
    No. The earth is not the "world." The world is the ENTIRE Creation, all of the Universe.
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    Do you think she is standing on top of ONLY the earth? Do you think she is only the Queen of Earth?
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    She was coronated as the Queen of HEAVEN and earth.
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    She stands upon the WORLD. ALL. OF. IT..
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    It is astounding that you fail to make this critical distinction.
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    You have diabolically limited her to being only the Queen of the earth. Total blasphemy.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #85 on: October 09, 2017, 12:32:38 PM »
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  • Then we can suppose that "whoever" described her as having the moon under her feet to be a blasphemer; guess "Moon Queen" is a bit of damnable sci-fi cheek as well.

    Your brain on stupid.


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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #86 on: October 09, 2017, 12:33:58 PM »
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  • Our Lord Jesus Christ reigns supreme over the world.
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    See the stars? He stands on the Firmament.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #87 on: October 09, 2017, 01:01:38 PM »
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  • The problem with the current flow of this topic is that the FEers are claiming the Globers believe the Earth spins and presume they subscribe to Heliocentrism, when no one of them has suggested it. To pull out articles condemning what is not part of the subject material seems quite.... incompetent? I think plenty of the Globers here are Geocentrists. Remain on topic, please. It looks ridiculous.


    Also, Tradplorable does make a point that "world" can mean universe. However, the use of the word "world" has many many aplications in English, so you can't just look at one aplication. "Welcome to my world (life)", "What a small world", "What world (foreign place/ planet) are you from?"  The word "world" is relative to the amount of space/area assigned to it.
       Also, what are the original words in French with which St. Catherine was spoken to?

    Then we can suppose that "whoever" described her as having the moon under her feet to be a blasphemer; guess "Moon Queen" is a bit of damnable sci-fi cheek as well.

    Your brain on stupid.

    DZ Please also makes a point.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #88 on: October 09, 2017, 01:03:43 PM »
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  • The problem with the current flow of this topic is that the FEers are claiming the Globers believe the Earth spins and presume they subscribe to Heliocentrism, when no one of them has suggested it. To pull out articles condemning what is not part of the subject material seems quite.... incompetent? I think plenty of the Globers here are Geocentrists. Remain on topic, please. It looks ridiculous.


    Also, Tradplorable does make a point that "world" can mean universe. However, the use of tge word "world" has many many aplications in English, so you can't just look at one aplication. "Welcome to my world (life)", "What a small world", "What world (foreign place/ planet) are you from?"  Also, what are the original words in French with which St. Catherine was spoken to?

    DZ Please also makes a point.
    Is it even possible for someone to be a globe earther if they can clearly see the flat earth horizon?

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #89 on: October 09, 2017, 01:05:15 PM »
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  • The problem with the current flow of this topic is that the FEers are claiming the Globers believe the Earth spins and presume they subscribe to Heliocentrism, when no one of them has suggested it. To pull out articles condemning what is not part of the subject material seems quite.... incompetent? I think plenty of the Globers here are Geocentrists. Remain on topic, please. It looks ridiculous.


    Also, Tradplorable does make a point that "world" can mean universe. However, the use of tge word "world" has many many aplications in English, so you can't just look at one aplication. "Welcome to my world (life)", "What a small world", "What world (foreign place/ planet) are you from?"  Also, what are the original words in French with which St. Catherine was spoken to?

    DZ Please also makes a point.

    Yes but the problem is that geocentrism is undermined by the lack of curvature.