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Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2017, 08:17:30 PM »
Yes, yes, I know you need a globe to prove the world is flat.   :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
That is a representation of the firmament above and the firmament below.

Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2017, 08:47:34 PM »
NASA Freemasons created globe earth CGIS' and passed them off as pictures; You fell for the deception. :-[
Yes, they did.


Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2017, 11:44:07 PM »
That is a representation of the firmament above and the firmament below.
Being that this object dates back many hundreds of years, and is included in Catholic visions, art, publication, etc...Could you link a quote that describes it representing the firmament?
If you look at the history of it, its just the Catholic adaptation of an old pagan symbology 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globus_cruciger

"Holding the world in one's hand, or more ominously, under one's foot, has been used as a symbol since antiquity. To citizens of the Roman Empire, the plain round globe held by Jupiter represented the world, or the universe, as the dominion held by the emperor. A 2nd-century coin from the reign of Emperor Hadrian shows the Roman goddess Salus with her foot upon a globus, and a 4th-century coin from the reign of Emperor Constantine I shows him with a globus in hand. The orbis terrarum was central to the iconography of the Tetrarchy, representing the Tetrarchs' restoration of security to the Roman world. Constantine I claimed to have had a vision of a cross above the sun, with the words "In this sign, you shall conquer" (Latin: In hoc signo vinces), at the Battle of Milvian Bridge in 312. His soldiers painted crosses upon their shields, and then defeated their foe, Maxentius.
With the growth of Christianity in the 5th century, the orb (in Latin scriptures orbis terrarum, the 'world of the lands', hence the word "orb") was topped with a cross (hence globus cruciger), symbolising the Christian God's dominion over the world. The emperor held the world in his hand, to show that he ruled it on God's behalf. To non-Christians already familiar with the pagan globe, the surmounting of a cross sent a message about the triumph of Christianity.[citation needed] 

Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2017, 11:57:16 PM »
In prudence, rigor and fairness:

1. Careful of things like influential fallacies; I'm not saying that one was committed, just take care.
2. "citation needed" is at least a tad ironic, no?

Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2017, 12:48:17 AM »
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