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Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #150 on: October 21, 2017, 02:25:37 PM »
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  • First, on the example that you provided there are exactly 12 corners.


    A corner is a 90 degree angle, no? Please show me your (12) 90 degree angles.

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #151 on: October 21, 2017, 02:27:57 PM »
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  • First, on the example that you provided there are exactly 12 corners.

    Second, if the passages were referring to the four corners that touch on the inside at the center of the circle, the passages do not make sense. "I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth". Were they standing back to back holding the four winds. Does this also imply that all the wind on Earth, which is only four in toto, have their origin in the center of the Earth, which is Jerusalem according to you guys?

    Third, in Isaiah 40:22 it says that "It is he that sitteth upon the globe/circle of the earth", but in Isaiah 66:1 it says "Heaven is my throne, and the earth my footstool". So which is it? Is the Earth God's seat because He sits upon it or is it His Footstool since heaven is His Throne? Either He sits upon the Earth or Heaven.

    Maybe you should start thinking of a different way to interpret the Holy Scriptures. At least stop condemning people who interpret them correctly, for your own soul's sake.
    You still did not tell me what you think a compass is.


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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #152 on: October 21, 2017, 07:44:54 PM »
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  • Third, in Isaiah 40:22 it says that "It is he that sitteth upon the globe/circle of the earth", but in Isaiah 66:1 it says "Heaven is my throne, and the earth my footstool". So which is it? Is the Earth God's seat because He sits upon it or is it His Footstool since heaven is His Throne? Either He sits upon the Earth or Heaven.


    Upon = over.
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    Read the Latin: super - over, above, atop, beyond, up.
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    He sitteth over the circle of the earth.
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    As for the Isaiah 66:1, it means Heaven (where He sits on His throne) is ABOVE the earth, which is His footstool to His throne.
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    Your globe model makes Isaiah 66:1 impossible, since on a globe Heaven is "out" in any direction, but the Bible plainly says Heaven is above the earth.

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #153 on: October 22, 2017, 09:03:14 AM »
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  • Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal, 
    Pray for us. 

    I think we all have better things to do than debate if the world is flat or not.  We should be doing what Jesus and Mary wants us to do. And we should do it now. 

    And many of you need to stop making things so complicated.  And who cares about bad Popes. We have had bad popes in the past.  Some repented and some did not.  It is up to all of us to keep the faith.  Not just know it but to live it.  





    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #154 on: October 22, 2017, 12:34:54 PM »
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  • Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal,
    Pray for us.

    I think we all have better things to do than debate if the world is flat or not.  We should be doing what Jesus and Mary wants us to do. And we should do it now.

    And many of you need to stop making things so complicated.  And who cares about bad Popes. We have had bad popes in the past.  Some repented and some did not.  It is up to all of us to keep the faith.  Not just know it but to live it.  
      For one ma'am, because in spite of modern and pernicious trends, who and what the alleged Supreme pastor, teacher, and judge, the Vicar of Christ, is says and does actually matters.

      This whole "who cares" attitude is not just anti- Catholic and so anti-Christ; it is also a widespread vice of epidemic proportions fed by, among other things, the entire "Recognize and Resist" racket.

      We are bound to far more that just the irreformable (i.e. "infallible") under, AT MINIMUM, the pain of mortal sin which will send you, and anyone else straight to hell.

      We the pope speaks, "He who hears...." people damn well better buck up and bloody listen.

     Peter used to stand and speak, and that was that; 'member Pentecost? 

     Where is the Holy Spirit? Where all the saints? There they are.

     Now we stand, speak, and scratch ourselves, and our itching ears.

     Now we make our own saints, of Protestants, faggots, pretty much anyone "nice" which excludes Catholics inevitably, like now.

     Why and how do you think we got here? "As goes the Church, so goes the world", "Omnia malo a clero"... "Omnia bonum a clero"; do those ring any bells?

    We got here because "who cares"?

    YOu know what, you're right; "Who cares?"

    I'll bet that's exactly why we have no pope, because we didn't, and wouldn't REALLY care anyway what he said or did so, why not "rent-a-clone" instead.

    "Church Militant"?

    What a joke; No, it's  "church mob" or "church gaggle" like a bunch of easily decapitated geese. "FORE! Who likes Pez?"

    You know what happens to a mob in war ma'am? They break, rout, bleed, and die... screaming.

    You seem like a nice lady, so I esp. don't want to cause you undue distress; however, to return that "niceness" first to God, WAKE up!

    Complacency kills, all the way through the dirt, all the way to Hell.
    Let the whining commence, then we'll see the claws and teeth pop from the "Laissez-faire", oh so tolerant, woolly pack of liberal fakes "congregating" here; who's first?
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #155 on: October 22, 2017, 02:32:22 PM »
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  • A circle is, by definition, flat.
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    There is no contradiction with Scripture's mention of "corners" and "quarters," as these have also been demonstrated to you on the FE model, but you choose to scoff at them.
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    Have you ever been to the Four Corners? Same concept. This really isn't that hard to grasp.
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    I had not noticed the word "flat" in any definition mainly it is defined as A circle is a shape consisting of a curved line. 

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #156 on: October 22, 2017, 03:10:33 PM »
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  • I had not noticed the word "flat" in any definition mainly it is defined as A circle is a shape consisting of a curved line.
    A circle, (Euclidean) geometrically speaking, is "two dimensional". 

    Any "circle" contingent upon 3+ dimensions, which likely includes any external sense objects are representative and not actually circles such as with the given image. 

    Why? because they have "thickness", such as with a cylinder. 

    Circles are curious things though, because their "length" is their "width" which would seem to make them one, not two, dimensional. 

    But Feists and abstraction don't tend to get on well, so this is likely a waste of time; however, it does serve to show the folly of straying from the true Liberal Arts.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #157 on: October 22, 2017, 04:36:36 PM »
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  •  For one ma'am, because in spite of modern and pernicious trends, who and what the alleged Supreme pastor, teacher, and judge, the Vicar of Christ, is says and does actually matters.

      This whole "who cares" attitude is not just anti- Catholic and so anti-Christ; it is also a widespread vice of epidemic proportions fed by, among other things, the entire "Recognize and Resist" racket.

      We are bound to far more that just the irreformable (i.e. "infallible") under, AT MINIMUM, the pain of mortal sin which will send you, and anyone else straight to hell.

      We the pope speaks, "He who hears...." people damn well better buck up and bloody listen.

     Peter used to stand and speak, and that was that; 'member Pentecost?

     Where is the Holy Spirit? Where all the saints? There they are.

     Now we stand, speak, and scratch ourselves, and our itching ears.

     Now we make our own saints, of Protestants, faggots, pretty much anyone "nice" which excludes Catholics inevitably, like now.

     Why and how do you think we got here? "As goes the Church, so goes the world", "Omnia malo a clero"... "Omnia bonum a clero"; do those ring any bells?

    We got here because "who cares"?

    YOu know what, you're right; "Who cares?"

    I'll bet that's exactly why we have no pope, because we didn't, and wouldn't REALLY care anyway what he said or did so, why not "rent-a-clone" instead.

    "Church Militant"?

    What a joke; No, it's  "church mob" or "church gaggle" like a bunch of easily decapitated geese. "FORE! Who likes Pez?"

    You know what happens to a mob in war ma'am? They break, rout, bleed, and die... screaming.

    You seem like a nice lady, so I esp. don't want to cause you undue distress; however, to return that "niceness" first to God, WAKE up!

    Complacency kills, all the way through the dirt, all the way to Hell.
    Let the whining commence, then we'll see the claws and teeth pop from the "Laissez-faire", oh so tolerant, woolly pack of liberal fakes "congregating" here; who's first?
    Seems Dizzy's having another of his manic episodes. Can't make heads or tails of this post.


     

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