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Offline monka966

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Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2017, 11:57:50 AM »
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    • How about Globus Cruciger? A christian symbol of authority since the Middle Ages.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi#/media/File:Carlo_Crivelli,_salvatore,_c._1470,_El_Paso_Museum_of_Art.jpg

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #136 on: October 21, 2017, 10:05:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: monka966 on October 19, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
    How about Globus Cruciger? A christian symbol of authority since the Middle Ages.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi#/media/File:Carlo_Crivelli,_salvatore,_c._1470,_El_Paso_Museum_of_Art.jpg
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    "The ball was supposed to represent the earth, with the cross on top representing Christ's dominion over it, and the sovereign would hold it to show that "he's got the whole world in his hands." The earliest of these dates to the fifth century, before the fall of Rome, and they were used throughout the Middle Ages. In fact, orbs without the cross were common for centuries beforehand. Thus, any claim that the ancients or medievals thought the earth was flat can't even get started." 

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #137 on: October 21, 2017, 11:32:06 AM »
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    • You're wasting your time, Myrna.  These people are like Feeneyites.  It's a dogma to them that will not change no matter what the Church, science, or reality says.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #138 on: October 21, 2017, 11:52:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on October 21, 2017, 11:32:06 AM
    You're wasting your time, Myrna.  These people are like Feeneyites.  It's a dogma to them that will not change no matter what the Church, science, or reality says.
    Cheap, and unjust, comparison.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #139 on: October 21, 2017, 11:55:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 21, 2017, 11:50:35 AM
    Hmm...It seems to me flatEarthers are more like those who reject the EENS Dogma. Elevating to Dogma that which is not; eg. claiming that suprema haec is dogmatic when it clearly contradicts many infallible teachings and perfectly coincides with V2 heresy.
    Glad you're "feelin' scrappy" man, cuz I'm not. It's all too "lather, rinse, and repeat" tiresome, not to mention more than a bit "Jєωfinger".

    The squeaky wheels get the rest of us greased, in a forties gangster sorta way.

    Of course, it's also dishonest, manipulative, and a bit bullying to even use words like "Feeneyite" in the first place.

    Each time it's responded to  just gives weight to falsehood.

    Did I mention "effeminate"?
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #140 on: October 21, 2017, 11:55:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on October 21, 2017, 11:32:06 AM
    You're wasting your time, Myrna.  These people are like Feeneyites.  It's a dogma to them that will not change no matter what the Church, science, or reality says.
    I know that!   
    I feel for the lurkers who read their FlatFantasy ideas, especially Catholics who might be convinced that their junk food is a dogma of faith.  
    I don't understand the science of it and don't need to know it, for I was inspired to search for the story of the Miraculous Medal one day while thinking about this subject, and that was all the answer I needed.  
    Just trying to keep it simple.  
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #141 on: October 21, 2017, 12:10:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on October 21, 2017, 11:55:49 AM

    I don't understand the science of it and don't need to know it, for I was inspired to search for the story of the Miraculous Medal one day while thinking about this subject, and that was all the answer I needed.  
    Just trying to keep it simple.  
    What a cop out.
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    Myrna cannot claim ignorance, no matter how hard she tries.
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    I truly think God is not going to hold anyone accountable for something they had no idea of. The punishment due to one's ignorance would be mitigated. If one dies without ever having given any thought to the shape of the earth, I do not believe God will condemn him.
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    However, if one has been presented with the truth and shown the obvious science and Bible references and then still  CHOOSES to reject this, I fear would have a different outcome.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #142 on: October 21, 2017, 12:32:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on October 21, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
    What a cop out.
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    Myrna cannot claim ignorance, no matter how hard she tries.
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    I truly think God is not going to hold anyone accountable for something they had no idea of. The punishment due to one's ignorance would be mitigated. If one dies without ever having given any thought to the shape of the earth, I do not believe God will condemn him.
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    However, if one has been presented with the truth and shown the obvious science and Bible references and then still  CHOOSES to reject this, I fear would have a different outcome.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #143 on: October 21, 2017, 12:39:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 21, 2017, 12:21:06 PM
    Scripture Passages that describe the Earth as Flat please. Also, what moral law/commandment would be broken, or Dogma rejected, that would warrant hell if one knows of FE but rejects it?
    You've been given the "compass" passages many times, and you continue to scoff at them.
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    What is a compass, in your opinion?
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    If you really think a compass is a globe, you would be totally wrong.
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    If you CHOOSE to reject Isaiah 40:22, and Job 26:10 do you think there is no culpability for a rejection of these parts of the Bible?
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #144 on: October 21, 2017, 12:41:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 21, 2017, 11:59:11 AM
    It's always like that. They get there little cheap shots in and then complain that we talk about it too much when retaliating to their ridiculousness.
    Feel you "dawg".

    Bullies. Maybe people like "Freedom" are correct in their approach after all; maybe we should just throw prudence to the wind and pummel these blokes mercilessly with copy/paste like "lover of truth."

    You ever go monster on someone who keeps stupidly calling you one, or crazy for someone who thinks they're a shrink?

    If they really thought that...

    Contrast and compare can be very 'educational".

    Some people grow complacent behind a keyboard; these are the same sorts that cry in disbelief when their "ragefinger" gets them ventilated IRL.

    Pathetic.
    It's like when I was a kid and my dad told me, after my ignorantly using the "N" word, "You can say that all you like, just as long as you say it in Compton."

    Not his exact words, but it gets the point across.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #145 on: October 21, 2017, 12:42:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on October 21, 2017, 12:32:12 PM
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    There is not a flat earther here who has rejected Our Lady's Miraculous Medal message, Myrna. Not one.
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    They have accepted the truth of her message more than you have because they actually fully understand the object she holds in her hand to be the entirety of Creation.
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    They did not twist her words (as YOU did) to minimize what she holds to be only the earth.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #146 on: October 21, 2017, 12:54:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on October 21, 2017, 11:32:06 AM
    You're wasting your time, Myrna.  These people are like Feeneyites.  It's a dogma to them that will not change no matter what the Church, science, or reality says.
    Our Church is the Catholic Church; I am not so sure about the rest of you types.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #147 on: October 21, 2017, 12:55:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on October 21, 2017, 12:54:06 PM
    Our Church is the Catholic Church; I am not so sure about the rest of you types.

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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #148 on: October 21, 2017, 01:11:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 21, 2017, 01:05:20 PM
    First, Isaiah does not say it's flat, whether you think it says circle or globe.
    Second, this would contradict other places in Scripture which describe the Earth as having four corners. Since this is the case, these words from Pope Leo XIII apply to you. Your interpretation is senseless and false.
    If it contradicts them, then end-of-day they don't care.

    Why? Because they're not Catholic.

    It's "Theistic FEism" for lack of better, not Catholicism.
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    Re: End of Story at least for Catholics
    « Reply #149 on: October 21, 2017, 01:28:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 21, 2017, 01:05:20 PM
    First, Isaiah does not say it's flat, whether you think it says circle or globe.
    Second, this would contradict other places in Scripture which describe the Earth as having four corners.
    A circle is, by definition, flat.
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    There is no contradiction with Scripture's mention of "corners" and "quarters," as these have also been demonstrated to you on the FE model, but you choose to scoff at them.
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    Have you ever been to the Four Corners? Same concept. This really isn't that hard to grasp.
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