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Offline Croix de Fer

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Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2018, 01:01:25 PM »
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  • The autonomous truck will help to eliminate or reduce driver fatigue, and presumably cause less accidents.
    Typical female naivete.

    These autonomous trucks are really about ultimately replacing human drivers with AI for the sake of profit. It's another attack on the middle & working class by further displacing workers from skilled jobs in an already endangered job market.

    Being a bartender or barista, or working at Wal-Mart or some lame AT&Tumor customer service job, isn't going to keep America afloat.
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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #16 on: March 02, 2018, 01:13:32 PM »
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  • Typical female naivete.

    These autonomous trucks are really about ultimately replacing human drivers with AI for the sake of profit. It's another attack on the middle & working class by further displacing workers from skilled jobs in an already endangered job market.

    Being a bartender or barista, or working at Wal-Mart or some lame AT&Tumor customer service job, isn't going to keep America afloat.

    If you watch the video I posted, you'll see that it says that there will not actually be driverless trucks. The truck driver will still be there. No loss of jobs.

    However, I suppose that maybe in the future it may be that there won't be drivers in these trucks. That's certainly possible. 

    Off-topic, but what will keep America afloat, ultimately, aren't jobs working for other people or companies. But then I'm a Chester-Belloc fan.  :)
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #17 on: March 02, 2018, 01:34:37 PM »
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  • However, I suppose that maybe in the future it may be that there won't be drivers in these trucks. That's certainly possible.
    That's exactly the objective.

    The naive think this is "technological progress", hence, they welcome it with the smokescreen of "benefits" while failing to see the ulterior motive.
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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #18 on: March 02, 2018, 02:22:55 PM »
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  • That's exactly the objective.

    The naive think this is "technological progress", hence, they welcome it with the smokescreen of "benefits" while failing to see the ulterior motive.

    IMO, the motive for this technology is making money. That's usually the bottom line. Being competitive with companies like Tesla will mean that new technology will have to be embraced. 

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #19 on: March 02, 2018, 02:53:46 PM »
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  • IMO, the motive for this technology is making money. That's usually the bottom line.
    Yes, as I said earlier, it's about maximizing profit. It's done by sacrificing working Americans, which, in effect, sacrifices families who are the building blocks of civilization.  



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    Being competitive with companies like Tesla will mean that new technology will have to be embraced.

    Not necessarily. It's the freight companies' ultimate decision to embrace the job-displacing technology. If one company chooses this AI capital to move freight, that doesn't necessarily require a competitor to do it. The service to move freight will not be made any cheaper by this AI. The only difference is more profit made for the freight companies who won't have to pay labor costs for skilled truck drivers. A freight company that doesn't embrace this tech can still compete in the industry by charging the same price for its service, but they won't pocket as much money as the freight company who uses AI. In the short term, however, the freight company choosing AI will incur much more costs because of the capital equipment expenditures of autonomous trucks.

    Do not be naive in thinking that a freight company, or any company, will pass the savings to the consumer when they don't have to pay labor costs anymore.

    It's no different than a company outsourcing its American manufacturing jobs to China. The consumer doesn't see a cheaper price in the good that was formerly made in the USA. The only difference is more profit for shareholders, Wall St., & the top execs in the company who give themselves huge raises and bonuses.
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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #20 on: March 02, 2018, 03:13:18 PM »
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  • Yes, as I said earlier, it's about maximizing profit. It's done by sacrificing working Americans, which, in effect, sacrifices families who are the building blocks of civilization.  



    Not necessarily. It's the freight companies' ultimate decision to embrace the job-displacing technology. If one company chooses this AI capital to move freight, that doesn't necessarily require a competitor to do it. The service to move freight will not be made any cheaper by this AI. The only difference is more profit made for the freight companies who won't have to pay labor costs for skilled truck drivers. A freight company that doesn't embrace this tech can still compete in the industry by charging the same price for its service, but they won't pocket as much money as the freight company who uses AI. In the short term, however, the freight company choosing AI will incur much more costs because of the capital equipment expenditures of autonomous trucks.

    Do not be naive in thinking that a freight company, or any company, will pass the savings to the consumer when they don't have to pay labor costs anymore.

    It's no different than a company outsourcing its American manufacturing jobs to China. The consumer doesn't see a cheaper price in the good that was formerly made in the USA. The only difference is more profit for shareholders, Wall St., & the top execs in the company who give themselves huge raises and bonuses.

    I agree that it's the freight companies who will make the decision as to what trucks they use. Yes, initial expenditures by freight companies for AI trucks will be high. But I was thinking about the truck manufacturing companies, which I have been commenting on, rather than freight companies. I think that it may be a good idea to have electric trucks, by Tesla. It may help to lesson dependence on foreign oil, and therefore there may be fewer wars.

    You're right about the freight companies probably passing on their higher costs for AI (or Tesla) trucks. Both companies will charge a lot for their trucks, no doubt. I think that Paccar trucks are made here in the USA, mainly in Texas, I think. I would think the same about Tesla trucks, but I'm not sure about that. American made products are often more expensive than Chinese goods.

    On the other hand, I'm not a fan of corporations in the first place. Better to have higher taxes for large companies, and little to no taxes for small companies, though it's the larger companies that can afford the innovations. Not that innovation is always good.
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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #21 on: March 03, 2018, 04:19:15 PM »
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  • What the heck are you talking about?  What on earth does this have to do with flat earth?
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    The response flat-earthers have to SpaceX videos is "They're fake."
    And "Elon Musk speaks the language of Antichrist." 
    They're terrified of satellites, therefore they say "man-made satellites do not exist" while Mr. Musk launches another one.
    Total apoplexy from flat-earthers.
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    This is their opportunity to say that the Tesla truck does not exist, and this is all CGI, you know, like globe earth photos.
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    After the Gigafactory is built, they can have a chance to say that's all CGI, too.
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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #22 on: March 03, 2018, 07:54:21 PM »
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  • .
    The response flat-earthers have to SpaceX videos is "They're fake."
    And "Elon Musk speaks the language of Antichrist."
    They're terrified of satellites, therefore they say "man-made satellites do not exist" while Mr. Musk launches another one.
    Total apoplexy from flat-earthers.
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    This is their opportunity to say that the Tesla truck does not exist, and this is all CGI, you know, like globe earth photos.
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    After the Gigafactory is built, they can have a chance to say that's all CGI, too.
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    That's just silly.  You yourself admitted that the recent SpaceX videos purported to be from space could have been made in studio.

    How does that lead to the conclusion that electric vehicles don't exist?

    Just because Musk is behind both?



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    Re: Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Truck for Flat-Earth Customers Only!
    « Reply #23 on: March 05, 2018, 12:33:26 AM »
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  • That's just silly.  You yourself admitted that the recent SpaceX videos purported to be from space could have been made in studio.

    How does that lead to the conclusion that electric vehicles don't exist?

    Just because Musk is behind both?
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    Who exactly said that ALL of the video was purported to be from space? The video segments showing the separation of the boosters and the fairing had the live earth in the background which is okay, believable (unless you're a flat-earther). The roadster is another topic, really. Good PR. You didn't think that David Bowie's "Space Oddity" could be heard in the vacuum of space, did you? Wasn't that a bit deceptive to say the least? Oh, right, I shouldn't be giving flat-earthers any ideas. I should let them come up with their own, right?
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