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Author Topic: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong  (Read 9513 times)

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Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 07:13:42 PM »
Sungenis is using a soft opening checking opposition to his model.  After speaking with him, it is clear that he has no solid evidence earth is a globe, but only remains his opinion.  700 pages of opinion he cannot prove.  He knows little to nothing about the Fathers of the Church and their writings on the subject.  He insists Scripture must be interpreted literally when it comes to moving earth, but not literally when it comes to earth's shape.  He thinks man went to the moon, or, if they didn't, then maybe NASA lied, but NASA doesn't always lie and he uses a lot of data from them. Sadly, every answer he provides directly or through his side-kick Rick Delano, he is unable to deal with the physical or spiritual questions coming at him.  I seriously doubt it's even possible for someone who's written two books and produced a movie supporting the globe can ever permit the truth to penetrate long enough to seriously consider the particulars involved.  I'm still waiting for answers to questions.  

Hope you will let us know what you think of his book after you have actually read it.  He stated that he wanted to examine and answer every scientific claim put forth for a flat earth.

Since you and some others on this forum seem to know so much about the flat earth and hold Sungenis in contempt for supposedly knowing so little about it why don't you ask to publicly debate him on the subject rather than merely toss invective at him?  Is that asking too much?

You say, "he thinks man went to the moon."  Actually, he has many times expressed grave doubts as to whether man has gone to the moon.

Sungenis spent 9 months of hard labor researching and writing his book, Flat Earth, Flat Wrong.  I'm sorry you dismiss that good faith effort so casually.  Perhaps, you will in good faith read his book and seriously consider what he has put forth in it and then report back to us.

Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 07:33:15 PM »
Did you not watch the interview? 

He's plain in saying he's a hired hand. He was paid to write the book by Hugh Owen. 


Owen gave him a 30+ page manuscript and he expanded it to 700+.


Thing is, he doesn't understand the basic flat earth model (which is not complicated at all). He literally cannot articulate it in his own words. This makes right thinking observers such as Happenby question the thoroughness of his research.


Collating information from other writers into a volume and slapping your name on it does not make you knowledgeable.

That said, I'd read it.


Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2018, 08:04:55 PM »
Did you not watch the interview?

He's plain in saying he's a hired hand. He was paid to write the book by Hugh Owen.


Owen gave him a 30+ page manuscript and he expanded it to 700+.


Thing is, he doesn't understand the basic flat earth model (which is not complicated at all). He literally cannot articulate it in his own words. This makes right thinking observers such as Happenby question the thoroughness of his research.


Collating information from other writers into a volume and slapping your name on it does not make you knowledgeable.

That said, I'd read it.

So someone paid him to write the book -- Hugh Owen, the founder and director of the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation.  Do you have a problem with someone like Hugh Owen paying him to write the book?  Do you see something nefarious in that?  Is not a man worthy of his labors.  Some of the greatest intellectual achievements as well as artistic achievements in the history of the world were done as a result of some person or persons commissioning another individual to carry out the work.  That doesn't necessarily mean the work is pre-ordained to reach certain conclusions.

Why do you fault him for writing 700+ pages?  Would you rather he only wrote 50?, 100?, or 200?
I don't have a problem with people questioning Sungenis' work after they have examined it, but to rush to judgment without examining the work is something of quite a different order.

In any event Smed, I am very happy that you seem to be keeping to some degree an open mind as expressed in your statement, "That said, I'd read it."  Please report back!

Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2018, 08:25:14 PM »
No, I have no problem with him accepting a paid writing assignment.

I have an issue with Owen's REASON for giving him the assignment and Sungenis's agreement with it: Owen seeks to squash the discussion of flat earth. It's very important to him.



Sungenis's partner, Rick DeLano,  has a very irrational hatred for flat earthers,  which stems from the fact that 3 major flat earth YT channels released FE films just prior to the release of The Principle, and they went viral and it killed his movie. Well, DeLano's bad publicity killed it too, but I digress.

Sungenis likely will not debate a FE Catholic if he's wasting time with clowns like Subirats.

Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2018, 11:29:52 PM »


Thing is, he doesn't understand the basic flat earth model (which is not complicated at all).
He literally cannot articulate it in his own words.
This makes right thinking observers such as Happenby question the thoroughness of his research.



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Wrong "thing." 
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Thing is, there isn't any flat-earth model.
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But go ahead and prove me wrong by articulating it in YOUR own words, since it's "not complicated at all."