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Offline klasG4e

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Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
« on: June 23, 2018, 07:52:25 PM »
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    • The following is seen at:


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    Replay of the LIVE Broadcast featuring “The Principle” Executive Producer Robert Sungenis, as he debuts his new book “Flat Earth- Flat Wrong”.
    Dr. Sungenis’ exhaustive, 736 page treatise on the entire Flat Earth phenomenon is sure to become the gold standard in examining the “movement” in all of its religious, scientific, and cultural aspects.


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    flatearthflatwrong.com
    « Reply #1 on: June 23, 2018, 10:31:24 PM »
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    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2018, 01:08:27 PM »
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    • The sound does not kick in until about 30 plus seconds into the video.  The questioning and sometimes deriding  written comments by flat earthers are met by clear straight forward written answers by Sungenis.



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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2018, 02:23:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on June 24, 2018, 01:08:27 PM



    The sound does not kick in until about 30 plus seconds into the video.  The questioning and sometimes deriding  written comments by flat earthers are met by clear straight forward written answers by Sungenis.




    Uh, hardly. When the Fathers of the Church were quoted  in the comments, they quit answering.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2018, 10:30:54 PM »
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    This time I counted 165 times he says "okay" -- presentation would be improved by not saying that.
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    The sound does not kick in until about 30 plus seconds into the video.  The questioning and sometimes deriding  written comments by flat earthers are met by clear straight forward written answers by Sungenis.

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    Are you saying the questions are on Facebook?

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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #5 on: June 25, 2018, 02:03:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e

    The following is seen at:

    www.facebook. com/theprinciplemovie/videos/899485586889486/  <---the URL (remove the space before "com")

    The Principle was live.
    June 20 at 1:00 PM · ·

    Replay of the LIVE Broadcast featuring “The Principle” Executive Producer Robert Sungenis, as he debuts his new book “Flat Earth- Flat Wrong”.

    Dr. Sungenis’ exhaustive, 736 page treatise on the entire Flat Earth phenomenon is sure to become the gold standard in examining the “movement” in all of its religious, scientific, and cultural aspects.
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    I couldn't get the video to play here in its embedded form. I think his using Facebook is a mistake.
    If you're having the same problem, copy and paste the URL above into your browser to go to the Facebook page directly.
    If you don't have an account and don't want one (like me!) just click "CANCEL" or "NOT NOW" when they urge you.
    Then you can watch the video.
    But don't try to scroll down because then you'll be harassed again to register or sign in, etc.
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2018, 02:21:51 AM »
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    There was this comment on the right side bar on the Facebook page:
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    Responding to Robbie
    Rob Skiba · 0:44 The Principle 
    We've already given HUNDREDS Bob. You've done an amazing job of showing the Earth is STATIONARY according to the Bible and that it is Geocentric. Now, you need to show us ANY Scriptures that CLEARLY states [sic] the Earth is spherical. And sorry, but Isaiah 40:22 doesn't help your case.
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    Why do you suppose Rob Skiba (whoever that is) wants Sungenis ("Bob") to provide Scripture quotes that state the earth is spherical?
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    Why does this "Skiba" think that anyone needs to refer to Scripture regarding what we can observe first hand right now?
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #7 on: June 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM »
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    Correction:
    If you don't have a Facebook account and you don't want one (like me) you might have to do the following to hear the sound track ONLY (but the video doesn't help to watch because it's just Sungenis sitting there waving his hands next to a coffee table with two lamps on it).

    When they give you the ad page with "THE PRINCIPLE" in a pop-up window demanding you to "sign in or register" just click the box  that says "NOT NOW." Then the video flash player will appear to the left with the "play" arrow in the middle. Click on the arrow AND THEN GO TO ANOTHER TAB IMMEDIATELY in your browser. (You should have another browser already open.)
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    Do Not Peek at the Facebook page. Stay on other tabs and leave the Facebook page alone. If you forget or don't believe me, and you return to the Facebook page to peek at the video or check the minute counter, the video will STOP AND YOU'LL HAVE TO REFRESH THE PAGE AND START OVER at the beginning of the video. This is especially rotten when you're at minute 50 so you have to play that 50 minutes all over again to get back to where you messed up. Facebook is a terrible place.

    The voice of Sungenis will begin after about 30 seconds. You won't be able to see what the time stamp is so keep track of the time on your own clock if you want to remember where to find certain sentences later. This is how fun it is to use Facebook if you don''t want to abide bby theiir stupid rules. (My keyboarrd adds extra letters and omits others)
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    You won't bbe able to pause the sound. So pay attention.
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    Facebook is a terrible place.
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2018, 10:04:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on June 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
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    Correction:
    If you don't have a Facebook account and you don't want one (like me) you might have to do the following to hear the sound track ONLY (but the video doesn't help to watch because it's just Sungenis sitting there waving his hands next to a coffee table with two lamps on it).

    When they give you the ad page with "THE PRINCIPLE" in a pop-up window demanding you to "sign in or register" just click the box  that says "NOT NOW." Then the video flash player will appear to the left with the "play" arrow in the middle. Click on the arrow AND THEN GO TO ANOTHER TAB IMMEDIATELY in your browser. (You should have another browser already open.)
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    Do Not Peek at the Facebook page. Stay on other tabs and leave the Facebook page alone. If you forget or don't believe me, and you return to the Facebook page to peek at the video or check the minute counter, the video will STOP AND YOU'LL HAVE TO REFRESH THE PAGE AND START OVER at the beginning of the video. This is especially rotten when you're at minute 50 so you have to play that 50 minutes all over again to get back to where you messed up. Facebook is a terrible place.

    The voice of Sungenis will begin after about 30 seconds. You won't be able to see what the time stamp is so keep track of the time on your own clock if you want to remember where to find certain sentences later. This is how fun it is to use Facebook if you don''t want to abide bby theiir stupid rules. (My keyboarrd adds extra letters and omits others)
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    You won't bbe able to pause the sound. So pay attention.
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    Facebook is a terrible place.
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    Agreed. 
    Facebook is not the most accessible venue.
    Doesn't Sungenis have a YT channel? ?
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2018, 12:35:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on June 25, 2018, 02:03:40 AM
    I couldn't get the video to play here in its embedded form. I think his using Facebook is a mistake.
    If you're having the same problem, copy and paste the URL above into your browser to go to the Facebook page directly.
    Use youtube-dl to download the video and watch it offline. It works much better than watching it in a browser.
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 08:32:13 PM »
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    • Hot off the Internet!


    The Flat Earth vs Geocentric Model: Dr. Robert Sungenis vs Antonio Subirats

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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #11 on: June 27, 2018, 11:23:42 AM »
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    • Where can Flat Earth Flat Wrong be downloaded?
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #12 on: June 27, 2018, 01:01:53 PM »
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    • The link they gave is not working.
    It is suppose to be flatearthflatwrong.com

    Don't hold your breath for a serious analysis of flat earth though. It will be mostly lies. It's going to be torn apart.
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    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2018, 02:49:11 PM »
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    • Sungenis is using a soft opening checking opposition to his model.  After speaking with him, it is clear that he has no solid evidence earth is a globe, but only remains his opinion.  700 pages of opinion he cannot prove.  He knows little to nothing about the Fathers of the Church and their writings on the subject.  He insists Scripture must be interpreted literally when it comes to moving earth, but not literally when it comes to earth's shape.  He thinks man went to the moon, or, if they didn't, then maybe NASA lied, but NASA doesn't always lie and he uses a lot of data from them. Sadly, every answer he provides directly or through his side-kick Rick Delano, he is unable to deal with the physical or spiritual questions coming at him.  I seriously doubt it's even possible for someone who's written two books and produced a movie supporting the globe can ever permit the truth to penetrate long enough to seriously consider the particulars involved.  I'm still waiting for answers to questions.   
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    Re: Dr. Robert Sungenis Debuts New Book: Flat Earth, Flat Wrong
    « Reply #14 on: June 27, 2018, 05:40:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on June 25, 2018, 02:21:51 AM
    Why does this "Skiba" think that anyone needs to refer to Scripture regarding what we can observe first hand right now?
    What is it that you can observe first hand?
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