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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Dr. Kent Hovind and Robert Sungenis on "Flat Earth, Flat Wrong!"
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2022, 09:06:24 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2022, 11:07:52 AM
I don't see why Leonardo da Vinci would know any more about the shape of the earth than anyone else. That's really an odd person to choose as an authority on this subject.

I don't see why he -- a man who should be spoken of in the past tense as he has been dead for hundreds of years -- would have know any less, either.  What is more, he was, while on earth, a man of true genius.  He was and remains a very respectable authority on myriad subjects, especially when compared to modern "traditional" stooges who cannot even figure out that the Bogus Ordo Anti-Church is a bloodthirsty whore who devours her own children.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dr. Kent Hovind and Robert Sungenis on "Flat Earth, Flat Wrong!"
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2022, 09:11:27 PM »
Quote from: Charity on June 09, 2022, 06:41:57 PM
Lad, I'm glad you started looking at the video.  I would appreciate any final comments you have concerning its content if you would care to provide.

Thus far I got to the debate regarding the Biblical origins of Flat Earth.  That's not something I spend too much time on because I do believe it's debatable and not definitive.  We do not have unanimous dogmatic consensus from the Fathers about the matter.  Some Fathers (Antiochene school for instance) were FE, while others were GE.  So it's not something I would really want to be debate with Dr. Sungenis.  Some of Hovind's objections against FE were actually a bit lame, and Dr. Sungenis actually shot some of them down, saying, "well, actually they have a really good answer for that," etc.
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Dr. Kent Hovind and Robert Sungenis on "Flat Earth, Flat Wrong!"
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2022, 09:15:21 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
Jesus would definitely know what the shape of the earth is, after all.

He told you there is a firmament above you, among other things that you apparently do not believe.  Earth is not the name of a planet; it is the name of the dry land.

"And God said: Let there be a firmament made amidst the waters: and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made a firmament, and divided the waters that were under the firmament, from those that were above the firmament, and it was so.  And God called the firmament, Heaven; and the evening and morning were the second day.  God also said: Let the waters that are under the heaven, be gathered together into one place: and let the dry land appear. And it was so done.  And God called the dry land, Earth; and the gathering together of the waters, he called Seas. And God saw that it was good."
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dr. Kent Hovind and Robert Sungenis on "Flat Earth, Flat Wrong!"
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2022, 09:16:05 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
In any case, why not choose the Infant of Prague and His globe? Jesus would definitely know what the shape of the earth is, after all. ::)

In either case, globes in art are not definitive.  FE does hold to a globular shape of the world overall when the dome is factored in.  Not to mention that the artists are not inspired or infallible.  So art really isn't definitive:




When used as symbols of royal power, it's also largely symbolic where the entire existence of the universe is wrapped in a ball and held in by the cross, to show that all of creation is in Our Lord's dominion.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Dr. Kent Hovind and Robert Sungenis on "Flat Earth, Flat Wrong!"
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2022, 09:18:17 PM »
I thought I was over the debate, but, well, here I am again. I'll just share these two once more to get the point across that Scripture does not at all talk of the earth as NASA and the Masons say it is.

The Earth is certainly a globe. A snow-globe, in a sense. We are to take the literal word of Scripture before moving to the other senses, and well, a lot of FE-advocates are pushing back and showing that the literal words are true.
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