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Offline budDude

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Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
« Reply #240 on: December 01, 2017, 05:45:30 PM »
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  • This is ultimately the goal of introducing Coepernicus/Galileo, that GOD somehow errored in creating the earth..



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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #241 on: December 02, 2017, 12:55:41 AM »
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  • This is ultimately the goal of introducing Coepernicus/Galileo, that GOD somehow errored in creating the earth..



    And not to mention the spinning ball Earth, gravity, solar system and endless universe of galaxies are all missing from Scripture. 


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    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #243 on: December 02, 2017, 08:39:48 AM »
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  • These might be of interest.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_route
    https://www.cntraveler.com/story/why-airplanes-sometimes-fly-over-the-north-pole
    https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/11449/why-does-no-aircraft-cross-directly-over-the-pole
    Northern flights are as common as southern but even as this article describes going over the poles, they do not. Cartography from ancients and modern flat earth may show allowance for the possibility of closer proximity to the North pole for travel, but planes simply do not use those routes. The southern route isn't even approached except for glancing stops. Nothing and no one has been below the 90 parallel.

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #244 on: December 02, 2017, 01:44:12 PM »
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  • Ok, but the explanation for how the sun works on a flat earth and whether the earth actually has curvature are very different things.

    Did you get time to catch the video I posted about there being no 24 hour sun in Antartica?

    No, I didn't see that video ... just the one about the 3 days of sun near the Arctic.


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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #245 on: December 02, 2017, 01:47:16 PM »
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  • https://www.flightradar24.com/23.02,-43.79/2

    Live flight air tracker. Zoom out. No flights over poles.

    Why would anyone want to fly over the poles?  Also, flat earth wouldn't prevent anyone from flying over the north pole.

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #246 on: December 02, 2017, 02:33:10 PM »
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  • Why would anyone want to fly over the poles?  Also, flat earth wouldn't prevent anyone from flying over the north pole.
    The pole route could be shorter in some cases making it desirable.
    Not all proposed flat earth models have north in the center. Moses, Enoch and Cosmas say earth is twice as wide east to west as it is north to south. In fact, if you go to Google Earth, center Africa. Then swipe down, Africa goes to the other side. Swipe down again, Africa returns. Center Africa again. Swipe sideways, swipe again. You have to swipe a third time for Africa to fully reappear. That is proof enough that Google is pulling a fast one because inhabitable earth as we know it cannot possibly be a ball.

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #247 on: December 02, 2017, 05:02:59 PM »
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    The Book of Enoch is not Scripture.
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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #248 on: December 02, 2017, 05:07:13 PM »
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    The Google Earth view of the planet is not optically correct, but makes the surface appear as it would with a wide-angle lens, which is why you can't see close to the edges. The center image is enlarged more than the perimeter. It is as though viewed from about 300 miles high, which is not high enough to see the 180-degree view of the earth's face from one vantage point.
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    When you see Africa in the center, you should be able to see the east coast of South America on the left side and the west coast of India on the right. But you can't. That's because the view is not wide enough. 
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    You should also see Antarctica at the bottom and the North Sea, and Iceland at the top. But you can't.
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    It doesn't "prove" anything.
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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #249 on: December 02, 2017, 05:26:59 PM »
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  • The pole route could be shorter in some cases making it desirable.
    Not all proposed flat earth models have north in the center. Moses, Enoch and Cosmas say earth is twice as wide east to west as it is north to south. In fact, if you go to Google Earth, center Africa. Then swipe down, Africa goes to the other side. Swipe down again, Africa returns. Center Africa again. Swipe sideways, swipe again. You have to swipe a third time for Africa to fully reappear. That is proof enough that Google is pulling a fast one because inhabitable earth as we know it cannot possibly be a ball.
    Neither is NASA

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #250 on: December 02, 2017, 05:30:02 PM »
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    The Google Earth view of the planet is not optically correct, but makes the surface appear as it would with a wide-angle lens, which is why you can't see close to the edges. The center image is enlarged more than the perimeter. It is as though viewed from about 300 miles high, which is not high enough to see the 180-degree view of the earth's face from one vantage point.
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    When you see Africa in the center, you should be able to see the east coast of South America on the left side and the west coast of India on the right. But you can't. That's because the view is not wide enough.
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    You should also see Antarctica at the bottom and the North Sea, and Iceland at the top. But you can't.
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    It doesn't "prove" anything.
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    So some say. The convenience of the back tracking and obfuscation by modern science is epic. They never said such a thing when they posted pics of their official cgi globes over the past 50 years


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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #251 on: December 02, 2017, 05:32:02 PM »
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  • And what is the pic you've posted but a cartoon. Where's the real globe earth photo?

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #252 on: December 02, 2017, 07:08:09 PM »
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  • And what is the pic you've posted but a cartoon. Where's the real globe earth photo?
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    That isn't a "photo." It's a geographically correct image of the earth composed by precise measurement and mapping which is possible without space travel. Globe models have been widely in use long before the advent of photography so that obviates the "photo" issue.
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    Planetary geodetic surveying established the true contours of all the continents within small limits of error using modern technology which only more accurately refined what had already been defined by much more crude means. 
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    You don't know much about history, do you? And you're not really interested, correct?
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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #253 on: December 02, 2017, 07:15:50 PM »
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    That isn't a "photo." It's a geographically correct image of the earth composed by precise measurement and mapping which is possible without space travel. Globe models have been widely in use long before the advent of photography so that obviates the "photo" issue.
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    Planetary geodetic surveying established the true contours of all the continents within small limits of error using modern technology which only more accurately refined what had already been defined by much more crude means.
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    You don't know much about history, do you? And you're not really interested, correct?
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    You talk, you claim, but you do not cite, source, or quote.  So basically, we're relying on your opinion.  Remember, the pagan globalists of at least the past 500 are in question here, along with the modern ones destroying with their nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.  What's fascinating in these threads is that I quote scripture, Popes, Saints, and Catholics, with sources, and I get hammered with every kind of detraction.  You post sentences, without sources, without explanation, and... crickets.  Sometimes, when looking for truth in murky setting, its the little things.  

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    Re: Did Catholics before the "Reformation" believe in FE?
    « Reply #254 on: December 02, 2017, 08:19:30 PM »
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  • You talk, you claim, but you do not cite, source, or quote.  So basically, we're relying on your opinion.  Remember, the pagan globalists of at least the past 500 are in question here, along with the modern ones destroying with their nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.  What's fascinating in these threads is that I quote scripture, Popes, Saints, and Catholics, with sources, and I get hammered with every kind of detraction.  You post sentences, without sources, without explanation, and... crickets.  Sometimes, when looking for truth in murky setting, its the little things.  
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    Do you want sources?
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    They won't be Scriptural, so forget that.
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    I know that's all you'll accept, so why bother.
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    Where does the Bible define the speed of light or the colors of the rainbow?
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    Tell us where the Bible lists in order the philosophical categories of being.
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    Where, oh where does Scripture pronounce on the relative electrical conductivity of silicon and gold?
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    These things are observable with our 5 senses and with the use of human reason.
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    Just like the sphericity of the earth is knowable by same.
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