Excellent post, happenby.

Meg,

It is a valid question and well spotted.  I have never tried to hide it, and have been honest with anyone who asked.  You were the first one to openly ask on the forum and not through private message.  Its amazing to me though people knew, no one said outed me sooner.

A rough ashlar is an imperfect stone, just as we are imperfect and tainted though original sin. It a philosophical concept that as you progress though life, you try to constantly work at it through the grace of God and try to rid yourself of your imperfections and vices.

Long story short, I was in tradition for decades and saw the rise and fall of the SSPX.  I became conflicted with numerous things and drifted away from the Church. My family, also in tradition has spread from the NO to SSPX to Boston, KY.  I left all together, but still come here to check on the status and happenings with in the resistance.

There are many fake, false, and erroneous things on the internet.  Its much like the things said about Trump, it doesn't have to be true to be used against him.  I wish to clarify a few things from this thread:

1) Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ does not have a position on Flat Earth and Globe Earth no matter what you read on the internet.  No one person speaks for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and I'm sure there are people on both sides of the isle on this topic.  I personally believe that the earth is a globe.  There is no Flat Sun, Flat Moon, Flat Mars, Flat Comet, Flat Asteroid Society...everyone seems fine with those being globular, I don't see the harm in believing that the earth might be a globe too.  I enjoy the debate...I do not enjoy Truth is Eternals extremism posing as Catholicism.

2) Lodges to not specifically revere Fr. Copernicus or Galileo.  They respect and honor the study of Astronomy, Geometry, Arithmetic, Music, Logic, Rhetoric and Grammar.  If there is any mention of these two men it was because they further advanced scientific discovery.

3)  You give Freemason's way too much credit.   They are too busy with trying to coordinate the fish fry, pancake breakfast, and fundraisers to try to take over the world.  There might be organizations of the rich and powerful controlling the world, but its not the masons any more if it ever was.

4) The oldest surviving globe is by Martin Behaim .  This is many years before the start of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  "During his visit to his native home in Nuremberg, in collaboration with the painter Georg Glockendon, Martin Behaim constructed his familiar terrestrial globe between 1491 and 1493, one of two globes, which he called the Erdapfel (literally, the earth apple). It conforms to an idea of a globe envisioned in 1475 by Pope Sixtus IV, but has the added improvements of meridians and an equatorial line."

5) I'll ask again.
Is there one traditional Catholic priest in the world that preaches flat earth is necessary for salvation? Is there any priest/religious/visionary/doctor/pope anybody alive or dead that said that have said that believing that the earth is a globe is Satanism?  I don't remember that blasphemy being an unforgivable sin in my Catechism.  In the dozen encyclicals over the last 200+ years that spoke against Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, was there a single one that said that the globe was a masonic deception?

Take Care and God Bless,

Excellent post, happenby.

No, a thing universally held by Church Fathers would not be a Church teaching if it did not pertain to faith and morals.
This to is addressed in Providentissimus Deus:Even if every Father had written that he believed in a flat earth and not a single one in favour of a spherical earth (which is not the case) unless they had identified this as belonging to faith, we would be at liberty to believe the earth is a globe.  
So go through your quotes again and find how many of them explicitly identify flat earth as belonging to faith.  I did not notice any.

If you want to try to establish by science that the earth is flat, I don't care.  But when you treat FE as something that I as a Catholic am obliged to believe, then you are the one going against Church teaching.

You have probably never seen Prudentissimus Deus before I cited it.  

Jaynek,

At this point you are being very dishonest.

1.You claimed that St. Thomas thought the world was round. When the quote is produced it says nothing of the sort. The only thing you can do to support this spurious claim is to say that "everyone at the time thought it was round, so he though it was round". In other words you lied.

2. You claimed that not all the quotes I gave showed that they thought the earth was flat. They clearly do and you have not provided ONE quote from my list to prove that baseless assertion. More lies therefore.

It is also frequently asked what our belief must be about the form and shape of heaven according to Sacred Scripture. Many scholars engage in lengthy discussions on these matters, but the sacred writers with their deeper wisdom have omitted them.   Such subjects are of no profit for those who seek beatitude, and, what is worse, they take up very precious time that ought to be given to what is spiritually beneficial.

What concern is it of mine whether heaven is like a sphere and the earth is enclosed by it and suspended in the middle of the universe, or whether heaven like a disk above the earth covers it over on one side?