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Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2025, 05:17:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Freind on December 05, 2025, 05:06:59 PM
    I've never seen an FE map that corresponds with people travelling by jet from Perth, Western Australia to Buenos Aires, Argentina.

    The jets fly over Antarctica on one side of the magnetic pole, and comes back on the other side. The compass interaction is a separate subject.

    But passengers can look at their analog watches and find their trip takes 14 hours, whereas any FE map shows it would take about 3 times as long as that.

    The real life trip corresponds clearly with the globe model.

    You must be wrong about something, because all other evidence points to the earth being completely a level plane. You're going to have to give more proof besides hearsay. How about links to the flights that you refer to? So we can see if it lines up with the Flat Earth model or not.

    The earth is manifestly flat. Anyone claiming the contrary bears the burden of proof.

    Flat earth is the default position. Those who claim we're on a spinning ball hurtling through space need to provide evidence and proof(s) for this un-intuitive, crazy assertion that goes against all sensory data.
    The number of people currently brainwashed, and the efforts of Freemasonic billionaires, is beside the point.
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #16 on: December 05, 2025, 05:19:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Freind on December 05, 2025, 05:06:59 PM
    I've never seen an FE map that corresponds with people travelling by jet from Perth, Western Australia to Buenos Aires, Argentina. 
    Some routes work on a globe, some don't.  It's not 100% accurate.


    In case you guys don't realize it...the scientific model = experimentation/concepts FIRST, and a model SECOND.

    You guys are rejecting the concepts because there's no model.  That's anti-science.  Plus, I don't think you understand the concepts, to begin with.  But that's another topic...
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #17 on: December 05, 2025, 05:22:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 05, 2025, 04:44:05 PM
    :facepalm:  This is not how true science works.  First, you hypothesize a theory, then your theory takes shape (pardon the pun), then you test it out, then you explain it in practical terms.

    Some guy in a barn just invented the combustible engine for a car, and you're asking for the design schematics of a 1950 Ford, Model T.  "Oh, you may have invented an engine, but if you can't show me a car design, it'll never work."  :facepalm:

    Your expectations are completely stupid and show your lack of critical thinking.

    Your “analogy” punctuates your lack of understanding of the scientific method. Explain to us how you tested your FE theory and give us a summary of your observations?  
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #18 on: December 05, 2025, 05:25:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on December 05, 2025, 05:22:39 PM
    Your “analogy” punctuates your lack of understanding of the scientific method. Explain to us how you tested your FE theory and give us a summary of your observations? 
    I'm not a scientist, moron.  But that doesn't mean I can't read experiments and conclusions and follow the evidence where it leads.
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #19 on: December 05, 2025, 05:35:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 05, 2025, 05:25:46 PM
    I'm not a scientist, moron.  But that doesn't mean I can't read experiments and conclusions and follow the evidence where it leads.

    Some advice: It’s better NOT to write something and have people think you’re stupid than to write something and remove all doubt.

    YOU have absolutely no clue about the scientific method…..NONE!
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #20 on: December 05, 2025, 05:42:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on December 05, 2025, 05:35:25 PM
    YOU have absolutely no clue about the scientific method…..NONE!
    Whatever you say.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #21 on: December 05, 2025, 06:32:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on December 05, 2025, 01:43:50 PM
    Fernand Crombette wrote about this:

    "if what the Bible says is true, Jerusalem is at the centre of the world.
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    The Bible does not say Jerusalem is the center of the world. Who is this heretic claiming this?
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #22 on: December 05, 2025, 06:36:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on December 05, 2025, 05:17:24 PM
    You must be wrong about something, because all other evidence points to the earth being completely a level plane. You're going to have to give more proof besides hearsay. How about links to the flights that you refer to? So we can see if it lines up with the Flat Earth model or not.

    The earth is manifestly flat. Anyone claiming the contrary bears the burden of proof.

    Flat earth is the default position. Those who claim we're on a spinning ball hurtling through space need to provide evidence and proof(s) for this un-intuitive, crazy assertion that goes against all sensory data.
    The number of people currently brainwashed, and the efforts of Freemasonic billionaires, is beside the point.


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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #23 on: December 05, 2025, 06:37:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 05, 2025, 04:44:05 PM
    :facepalm:  This is not how true science works.  First, you hypothesize a theory, then your theory takes shape (pardon the pun), then you test it out, then you explain it in practical terms.

    Some guy in a barn just invented the combustible engine for a car, and you're asking for the design schematics of a 1950 Ford, Model T.  "Oh, you may have invented an engine, but if you can't show me a car design, it'll never work."  :facepalm:
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    The issue here is that people have been successfully using the globe earth model to navigate to the most remote corners of the world for five centuries now. This is not some sort of recent discovery.

    In your analogy, it's a reasonable question to ask, Does the combustible engine you designed work when you turn it on? If it does not, then you have not designed an engine. That's where we are here. And the OP asked in the initial post whether there was an engine for the flat earth model, and apparently there isn't one, since no one produced it. So we're not even at the state you described.


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    Your expectations are completely stupid and show your lack of critical thinking.

    This is a very uncivil way to talk. Can you please try to show at least basic courtesy when you speak to others on the internet.
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #24 on: December 05, 2025, 06:45:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on December 05, 2025, 06:32:00 PM
    The Bible does not say Jerusalem is the center of the world. Who is this heretic claiming this?
    Wrong again.

    5 Thus saith the Lord God: This is Jerusalem, I have set her in the midst of the nations, and the countries round about her. (Ezekiel 5:5)

    12 To take spoils, and lay hold on the prey, to lay thy hand upon them that had been wasted, and afterwards restored, and upon the people that is gathered together out of the nations, which hath begun to possess and to dwell in the midst of the earth.  (Ezekiel 38:12)
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #25 on: December 05, 2025, 06:46:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on December 05, 2025, 06:37:19 PM
    .

    The issue here is that people have been successfully using the globe earth model to navigate to the most remote corners of the world for five centuries now. This is not some sort of recent discovery.

    In your analogy, it's a reasonable question to ask, Does the combustible engine you designed work when you turn it on? If it does not, then you have not designed an engine. That's where we are here. And the OP asked in the initial post whether there was an engine for the flat earth model, and apparently there isn't one, since no one produced it. So we're not even at the state you described.
    Don't change my analogy.

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    This is a very uncivil way to talk. Can you please try to show at least basic courtesy when you speak to others on the internet.
    Snowflake.  :laugh1:

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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #26 on: December 05, 2025, 09:16:42 PM »
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    • Again, cf. the work of Herve Riboni about how people "navigate" the "globe" successfully with current maps.  In the Southern "Hemisphere" in particular they're required to make course changes based on some alleged "magnetic declination", and he demonstrates how these declinations almost perfectly represent the deviation of the globe model from the FE.  So, this man participated in sailing races around the world and is rather expert in the matter.  He also goes out into the field to demonstrate deviations in the real world from what the current maps allege.  He also points out how timezones are compressed or even eliminated in some Northern latitudes compared to their Southern equivalent when they should be identical, e.g. where 30 degrees North latitude should be identical to 30 degrees South on a ball ... but they're not.
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #27 on: December 05, 2025, 09:24:56 PM »
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    • If you search magnetic declination, the AI response ... verbatim ... echoing the genius above who claims that you can navigate successfully using modern maps.

    "To navigate accurately with a compass and map, you must know the magnetic declination for your location.'

    How about that.  But but muh globe map lets me navigate accurately.

    You need to bring magnetic declination charts with you to adjust against your compass settings.  Riboni shows how if you eliminate these supposed declinations in the South you basically end up with a FE map, and he's working on putting one together.
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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 03:35:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 05, 2025, 09:24:56 PM
    If you search magnetic declination, the AI response ... verbatim ... echoing the genius above who claims that you can navigate successfully using modern maps.

    "To navigate accurately with a compass and map, you must know the magnetic declination for your location.'

    How about that.  But but muh globe map lets me navigate accurately.

    You need to bring magnetic declination charts with you to adjust against your compass settings.  Riboni shows how if you eliminate these supposed declinations in the South you basically end up with a FE map, and he's working on putting one together.


    You don’t *need* to bring charts to determine magnetic declination. You can use Polaris (for determining true north) in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Cross (or for more accuracy, the star, Sigma Octantis) in the Southern Hemisphere. Also, you can use a telescope and a drift alignment technique for even more accuracy.



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    Re: Definitive Flat Earth Map
    « Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 06:39:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 05, 2025, 01:19:05 PM
    So, this is based on that Pangea theory.  What do you supposed caused the breakup?  I mean, most likely the Flood, but how did that work, and by what mechanisms?  I've read things calling that theory into question, where the fact that South America fitting into Africa is not accurate, but due to something else that happened, but can't recall the details.

    1- In the six hundredth year of the life of Noe, in the second month, in the seventeenth day of the month, all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the flood gates of heaven were opened  [Genesis 7:11]

    IF the Earth was created with one landmass like above and the fountains of the great deep were broken up, meaning lands being separated, this could explain how we find different animals in one land and not on others.  

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