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Author Topic: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis  (Read 4483 times)

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Re: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2022, 05:57:38 PM »
This I found interesting, a FlatEarther that challenges some of the more common FE models
A FLAT EARTHERS HONEST OPINION ABOUT THE AZIMUTHAL EQUIDISTANT, FLAT EARTH MODEL. - TRUTH EVIDENCE

[color=var(--color_brand)]https://www.bitchute.com/video/kwXGOOGiWECf/[/color]

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Re: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2022, 10:27:05 PM »
Ladislaus, that was an EXCELLENT assessment of the video and I thank you for taking the time to break it down for us. You really do the Catholic world a service here (once again).

I watched "The Principle" as well as "Galileo Was Wrong" and found them interesting, and learned a lot about the flaws in modern science and Cosmology.

But I have lost all respect for Sungenis at this point. How could he turn on his allies, with whom he disagrees maybe 15%, and try to curry favor with the atheistic bastards who hate God and want to turn mankind into a bunch of mere animal walking monkeys with no immortal soul?

Just so he can make a name for himself? Make money? How base, disgusting, and petty of him. He is as GRIFTER, a DECEIVER, a FOOL, and a TOOL of the Establishment. They are indeed laughing at him behind his back. What a small, sad, pathetic man.


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Re: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2022, 04:12:26 AM »
I offer as proof the video posted in the Original Post.
Beyond that, I offer Ladislaus' commentary on the video -- it's a pretty clear cut case.

Everything he said rang true, in terms of logic, and in terms of the facts.

Just the fact that Sungenis undertook this "hit job" and/or feels the need to curry favor (with whom?) by bashing Flat Earth in the first place shows his LACK OF OBJECTIVITY and/or BAD WILL in the matter. Therefore, he's a grifter, plain and simple. He's out for relevance, fame, money, whatever. Typical grifter.

I'm not criticizing each of those who still believes the Globe Earth lie. I'm criticizing a specific man who has been intellectually dishonest (to say the least) for the sake of aggrandizing his own position and reputation.

It's one thing to disagree with someone on an unclear or disputed topic. It's another thing to be found distorting, lying, using logical fallacies despite being high intellect, taking bribes, slandering your opponents, etc. for the sake of "being right" or aggrandizing your status.

As Ladislaus pointed out, he's not just arguing the case for a globe earth, a position I happen to disagree with. No, Sungenis has done many things worthy of actual BLAME.

Re-read Ladislaus posts, and stop being so emotional and attached to the damned NASA "globe" deception. Free your mind, and embrace the truth.

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Re: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2022, 04:15:33 AM »
I challenge you to back them up with solid irrefutable proof.

If you still believe in NASA, and the Globe deception at this point, with all the evidence against it, I would be wasting my time trying to convince you. So I won't even try.

I've had my fill of liars and deceivers and others of bad will, having been placed in the current age of the world. 

When I see anyone playing monkey business with the truth, I'm going to call a spade a spade.

And when I see anyone violating the truth with apparent malice, it makes me angry. Hence my descriptive words for Mr. Sungenis. You see, I quickly passed over the possibility of him being stupid. So that only leaves ONE other option. I called him a fool, but I meant that as the opposite of wise -- as in, nuclear physicists with high IQs choosing to reject God and believe in evolution for various worldly rewards. You can be high IQ and still be a fool (=lacking wisdom).

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Re: Debunking the Flat Earth Movement ~ Dr Robert Sungenis
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2022, 04:17:45 AM »
I won't copy/paste ALL Ladislaus' posts on the matter, but here is just ONE hard-hitting, irrefutable sample that frankly speaks for itself. It IS proof.


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He admits going in that he set out to "debunk" Flat Earth ... having been commissioned (aka paid) by Kolbe Institute to do precisely that.

So Dr. Sungenis' intellectual dishonesty is palpable throughout the book.  It causes him to make repeated blunders in interpreting the Church Fathers, and the "science" sections were equally contrary to sound logic ... except the one section that I have not fully been able to analyze due to lack fo time, on account of the fact that it would involve a lot of research regarding alignments of the stars, etc.  Other FEs have done the research, but I have not been able to confirm or deny the contested findings in that regard.

I found it sad that Dr. Sungenis backed up NASA almost categorically, when NASA has been mocking and ridiculing his own geocentrism from the beginning.

I was deeply disappointed in his FEFW book ... and I cannot be more charitable about it than to say it was a large pile of trash.