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Sun and moon circling at a constant height above flat earth is a concept that hasn't been published before Dubay started the recent hype around 2014/2015. Given your vast literature, you could simply refute this, if you weren't dishonest yourself.

P.S.: And what about your implicit claim that all the world, including Moses, Solomon, and the Lord, use deceptive language, describing appearences and not reality? No answer?

You're a dishonest fool who simply makes things up without proof and then demands that others disprove your nonsense.

1902 "The Earth" (volumes III-IV), a journal published in 1902 by John Williams (editor).





And this is just the third one I randomly opened to look for this.

And we admit that the exact path of the sun and moon are speculation.  Perhaps they do exit and enter these "gates" as the Book of Enoch seems to describe.  We don't know for sure.  We're taking guesses based upon the other phenomena we can observe.  That is precisely known as the scientific method, where you form theories and hypotheses and then see whether observations back them up or falsify them.

DuBay actually got his ideas from a lot of these same books.  He has this video "200 Proofs ...".  There's a book out there from the 1800s called "100 Proofs", and Dubay took that book and then added stuff in there from other books.  When DuBay was talking about how he became a Flat Earthers, he spoke about having come across these very books (most of which I have in my collection as well).

Reminds me of the Conciliar heretics casting Traditional Catholics as "Lefebvrites" -- as if we are in a cult, heretics, following a mere man. It's not about the Faith, the truth, or Tradition handed down by the Apostles -- it's all about "Lefebvre". A diabolical inversion of the truth, which is to be expected I suppose.

It's the oldest trick in the book. A dirty trick, but unfortunately a very effective one, at least with the normies and sheeple.

There was the original Flat Earth Society from the mid 1950s ... that most FEs believe was taken over by disinfo agents after the death of its original founder, but Marion insists this was all invented by DuBay in 2015 because Sungenis embarrassed a Jєω in his movie.  Pay no attention to the fact that he has zero evidence for this and just pulls it out of his rear end.

At the end of the day, there's much theory there with FE due to the gaps of our scientific knowledge.  We don't have the billions per year at our disposal that NASA does in order to conduct experiments.  Some of the theory might be right; some of it might be wrong.

But I simply cannot buy that this magical refraction is responsible for all the "see too far" phenomena.  I laid out both sides of the issue, and the odds are so small that this refraction can consistently and repeatably make light bend perfectly around the curve, are almost zero.  And the odds that as we're hurtling through space at millions of miles per hour, not just the planet, but the entire solar system, and then the galaxy, and that the angle of our north pole towarad Polaris hasn't budged, and that the moon rotates at the same rate as it revolves around the earth ... to the second, those odds are so preposterously small that it would be like my claiming that complex organisms just evolved randomly out of nothing.

I would be more inclined to believe some evidence that "gravity" causes light to bend around the curve.  At least that would result in a repeatable and consistent result.  But nobody argues that because they realize that gravity does not have that effect on light.