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Author Topic: Debunk of a Flat Earth without using science but only empirical observations  (Read 20722 times)

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Offline Tradman

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There's also a question of universals and likeness. If one accepts universals and likenesses, it's also clear that the only way that things on the surface of the Earth have a universal relation to the Earth (in any likeness of position) is through sphericity not flatness.

When a boat is upright on the sea, it is always in the same universal relation to the surface of the Earth because the Earth is a sphere. When the Earth is flat, the center is different as well as the sides and the relation of the boat ... and the objects and people on the boat.

What the...

You globers make it impossible to have a logical conversation running fantasies and assumptions practically to the moon.  Why pray tell, is the center different from the sides in relation to the boat on FE?     

Flat earth is a barmy troll, invented by some Protestants as a meme to attack Catholics of the past as backward. I refuse to believe anyone of sound mind believes this. If the earth is flat, how did the Japs attack Pearl Harbor? Fuel must have been cheap as they'd have to sail or fly across the world?:jester::jester:


Offline Meg

I wasn't trying to debate Blount's model per se, was just pointing out that the circling sun model wasn't invented by Dubay, and I just picked out the first one in my collection of books that made mention of it.

Dubay certainly helped popularize the notion, but there were others who became active right round the same time, and I attribute it to the release of the Nikon P900 camera in early 2015.  Otherewise, Dubay would have been another conspiracy theorist on the web.  But people were able to use these cameras to verify the "see too far" problem.  Had people not been able to independently verify the results, he would have been consigned to the dustbin of conspiracy crackpots.

Lots of the FEs came from the "questioning the moon landings" crowd.  Once you see the massive fraud and hoaxes being perpetrated by NASA, then you just can't accept anything they put out there as evidence anymore.

Whether someone believes in globe or flat, there's enough solid stuff out there to make it very credible.  As one of the FEs points out, the earth seems to just be "hiding" the curve form all observations.  Similarly, detecting the motion of the earth has been elusive, and every experiment has failed, from Airy to Michelson-Morley (and many in between).  You have Foucault's pendulum, but its validity is extremely debatable.  Even Foucault followers admit that the tiniest force applied at the very start could set the pendulum in motion one way or another, and not a few of them end up moving in the wrong direction.

Well said. There are serious problems with the ball model for the earth, and especially with NASA and its deceptions. That in itself doesn't prove FE, but it should be taken into consideration. 

Indeed, the "see too far" problem has not been debunked, and it presents a roadblock for believing in a ball earth. 

Flat earth is a barmy troll, invented by some Protestants as a meme to attack Catholics of the past as backward. I refuse to believe anyone of sound mind believes this. If the earth is flat, how did the Japs attack Pearl Harbor? Fuel must have been cheap as they'd have to sail or fly across the world?:jester::jester:
Golly, it sure looks like a straight shot to me.


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Offline gladius_veritatis

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If the earth is flat, how did the Japs attack Pearl Harbor? 

As you are apparently a man of prayer, I would advise asking for some common sense. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, but it cannot hurt to ask.