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Ladislaus · « **Reply #295 on:** November 17, 2022, 12:38:08 AM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on November 16, 2022, 11:26:16 PM

I'm not so sure after I read this from Haydock:

And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven, to divide the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: - Genesis 1:14

The day is completed in twenty-four hours, during which space the earth moves round its axis, and exposes successively different parts of its surface to the sun. It goes at a rate of fifty-eight thousand miles an hour, and completes its orbit in the course of a year. (Haydock)

- George Leo Haydock

Not so sure about what?

I'll stick with St. Robert Bellarmine and the Holy Office when they decided that it is proximate to heresy to hold that the earth moves.

I don't see "St." in front of Fr. Haydock's name, nor "Doctor of the Church" after it.

Tradman · « **Reply #296 on:** November 17, 2022, 09:57:35 AM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on November 16, 2022, 11:26:16 PM

I'm not so sure after I read this from Haydock:

And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven, to divide the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: - Genesis 1:14

The day is completed in twenty-four hours, during which space the earth moves round its axis, and exposes successively different parts of its surface to the sun. It goes at a rate of fifty-eight thousand miles an hour, and completes its orbit in the course of a year. (Haydock)

- George Leo Haydock

Haydock was deluded like the rest of us before we realized we were lied to. Incidentally, his numbers are way off. According to NASA the imaginary globe travels quite a bit faster at 67,000 mph to complete a year around the sun which is almost 10,000 mph difference. So it's not like Haydock knew anything, he was repeating what he'd heard at the time. That's not science. It's also not teaching. It is a lie planted purposefully by evil doers so error can be propagated by good people unintentionally, which is how the enemy operates, sowing tares.

Philothea3 · « **Reply #297 on:** November 17, 2022, 11:12:17 AM »

Quote from: Tradman on November 17, 2022, 09:57:35 AM

Haydock was deluded like the rest of us before we realized we were lied to. Incidentally, his numbers are way off. According to NASA the imaginary globe travels quite a bit faster at 67,000 mph to complete a year around the sun which is almost 10,000 mph difference. So it's not like Haydock knew anything, he was repeating what he'd heard at the time. That's not science. It's also not teaching. It is a lie planted purposefully by evil doers so error can be propagated by good people unintentionally, which is how the enemy operates, sowing tares.

I just find it weird, because Haydock was from way back in 18th century and obviously his works were all approved by the Church before getting published. So it was a lie, then back then all the Catholics including the ones in Vatican were lied to back then. Most narrative of the Flat Earther I read argues that the lie was made up by NASA and they fabricated history since then, but now we see a catholic priest from way back who wrote commentary in 18th century "being lied to"? Then by whom? And how long ago was this alleged lie formed?

Tradman · « **Reply #298 on:** November 17, 2022, 11:47:02 AM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on November 17, 2022, 11:12:17 AM

I just find it weird, because Haydock was from way back in 18th century and obviously his works were all approved by the Church before getting published. So it was a lie, then back then all the Catholics including the ones in Vatican were lied to back then. Most narrative of the Flat Earther I read argues that the lie was made up by NASA and they fabricated history since then, but now we see a catholic priest from way back who wrote commentary in 18th century "being lied to"? Then by whom? And how long ago was this alleged lie formed?

Flat earthers have said it all along the way. We know NASA isn't the originator of this lie because the Church was fighting this back in the 15 and 1600's, and even well before that. NASA is just the advanced scientism accepted today. Various Fathers and saints battled the lie into submission along the way, but it kept coming. It's amazing the tenacity of Evil often exceeds Christianity's determination to defend truth. But that's really no surprise. Consider the predicament we're in with Francis and the anti-Catholic clergy these days. A lot of us already know it's true, but imagine the surprise of Catholics who suddenly realize the human element of the Church has been hijacked. As for the globe lie, Satan re-created the world in his own image. He had to established a false world, a relativistic world, where reality, absolutes and doctrine do not exist physically or spiritually: False world, false church, false doctrine. And because people believe the lie, Satan has built this support system to give himself credibility so the Antichrist will be more readily accepted, but just as importantly, to undermine the credibility of God and in scripture.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #299 on:** November 17, 2022, 04:36:28 PM »

Yeah, I don't know where this false claim that FEs believe NASA invented the ball earth comes from. Sounds similar to the myth that FEs believe that the earth is this flat pancake flying through space. There's an emphasis on NASA just because NASA has been the focal point of trying to prove that the earth is a ball, but nobody thinks that NASA invented FE.

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