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Title: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 26, 2021, 06:00:38 PM
I've been listening to this guy's videos lately, and he has some pretty interesting critiques of modern cosmology. I don't know what flavor of Christian he is, probably not trad Catholic given some of the language he uses, but the points he makes are good.

Language warning.
https://youtu.be/UklbZSdhE5Q
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 26, 2021, 07:59:58 PM
I tried playing the video to see if I could learn something about a new topic. Well, I got 3 seconds in before I figured out the guy was trying to actually sing. It was hurting my ears. He sounds like a cow in distress. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and tried to listen in more at various parts. No, sorry, I could not do it. He was rambling gibberish and trying to sound cool while quoting someone and sitting in traffic. Then he went on to thank those watching him. Okay...I still haven't the foggiest what the heck subject he was trying to talk about, and on top of that, I am pretty good at interpreting baby babble and speech impediments.

And he was going on for over an hour? :-( :fryingpan: 
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 26, 2021, 08:25:08 PM
He has a dry sense of humor, he doesn't really start talking about anything with substance until around 3 minutes in. He spends around 25 minutes on the subject of modern cosmology and how it is deeply rooted in a religious worldview, not materialism, and then he moves on to criticize the concept of gravity. It's more of a stream of consciousness than a formal lecture or something. I find it amusing and entertaining.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 26, 2021, 09:04:24 PM
Okay, thank-you. Maybe somebody else will have more success? I did manage to catch the words Hegel and materialism, and "adios" but otherwise, I was quite confused. I did laugh when I played it back a second time for the very beginning where he is singing the line about "head over heels," that was pretty funny. :laugh1:
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 26, 2021, 09:17:08 PM
I think he was mocking Alanis Morrissette :laugh1:
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Miser Peccator on December 26, 2021, 09:34:22 PM
I've watched about 30 minutes and pretty much agree with him.

He's a comedian, impersonator, artist who lived in LA and is now associated with Owen Benjamin so his audience is used to his impersonations and silliness.

This should go without saying, but agreeing with him or Owen Benjamin or anyone like them doesn't mean we should follow them or their religion or philosophy of course.  They are not Traditional Catholic and are imperfect and suspect and possibly controlled opposition but are revealing some truths worthy of notice.

JimBob's impersonations of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro you've posted, Digital Logos, are hilarious and spot on.

He's right.  It's not just about hiding gnosis from the profane uninitiated goyim.  They are creating the Tikkun Olam beast system which rabbis explain is to repair the damage the bad ol' "God the Creator" did in the garden when he divided Adam Kadmon into man and woman rather than the androgynous being he supposedly was according to their belief. 

Lucifer is the good guy and we become like god as he promised Adam and Eve and put things back to the way they were supposed to be.  Everyone becomes god like Adam Kadmon the divine androgyne.

They are creating a literal digital twin of God's creation and humanity's consciousness will be uploaded and owned by Lucifer.

They are using CRISPR technology to alter the genome of every human, animal and plant on earth so they can patent it, barcode it and track it and trace it in real time with AI technology.

All these roads lead to the beast system:
Kabbalah, Theosophy, Gnosticism, Zionism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, NASA, the UN, the WEF,  Sabbatean Frankism, The Ascended Masters, New Age,  Mormonism, UFO/Aliens, Transhumanism, preparing for the Moshiach, and on and on....

It's like Mexican food.  It's all the same ingredients just mixed up a different way with a different name with the same goal in mind.

All leading to the ONE.

Monism.  Singularity.  Hive Mind.  The Matrix. The nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.  The One World Religion.  The Beast system. The Metaverse.

All humanity and all nature united as one and handed over on a platter to Lucifer.

Man and woman and animal and machine are alllll mixed together into one.

The lyrics to so many songs come to mind with regards to this.

Back to the Garden (Woodstock-Crosby Steeles and Nash)
In the Blood of Eden (Peter Gabriel)

I grew up with U2 (favorite of the UN) and The Police (who had CIA connections) so I think of:

U2
ONE---one love, one life...etc.  U2
Electrical Storm video shows a baptism and transhuman man/machine/animal meld
It's a Beautiful Day video with tranny model handing bitten apple to Bono (also suspected tranny married to tranny and "he" and band members have obvious tranny kids) and sun worship and phallic symbols throughout

The Police  (probably trannies with obvious tranny children)
We Are Spirits In the Material World
Every Step You Take, every breath you make, every bond you break, I'll be watching you (graphene biosensors tracked on blockchain anyone?)
Walking On The Moon video showing them faking going up in space


There are sooooo many movies forecasting everything it's just amazing we couldn't see it taking place all around us.

This is why Congress just passed legislation allowing for chimeras and why the monoclonal antibodies (Regeneron) is a "cure" from "humanized mice" and hydras and why the gene editing serums have graphene biosensors and why Pfizer and Moderna have patents for connecting humans to the internet for surveillance and they are creating vaccines from "humanized plants" etc. etc.-----

It's creating THE ONE.










Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 26, 2021, 10:45:07 PM
I think he was mocking Alanis Morrissette :laugh1:
Yeah, I gathered that, but didn't want to name names. I might get another down-vote, ha, ha. LOL. :laugh1:
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 26, 2021, 11:09:31 PM
Huh, wow, I am glad that I didn't make it through the video then. That stuff seems to be a bit of a heavy focus or maybe even obsession by reading some of the posts here. Very dark and depressing.

It's Christmas, isn't there something more cheerful and happy or lighter we can figure out to talk about? :confused:

I have noticed that with other posts here--sooo much doom and gloom, and very heavy. Many one-trackers with a seeming dark cloud around them. It's a constant case of paranoia, the sky-is-falling, and a weird mix of isolation/in-fighting and dogmatic show-downs here.

This site is getting really old, really fast for me. :(
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Miser Peccator on December 27, 2021, 12:42:45 AM
Huh, wow, I am glad that I didn't make it through the video then. That stuff seems to be a bit of a heavy focus or maybe even obsession by reading some of the posts here. Very dark and depressing.

It's Christmas, isn't there something more cheerful and happy or lighter we can figure out to talk about? :confused:

I have noticed that with other posts here--sooo much doom and gloom, and very heavy. Many one-trackers with a seeming dark cloud around them. It's a constant case of paranoia, the sky-is-falling, and a weird mix of isolation/in-fighting and dogmatic show-downs here.

This site is getting really old, really fast for me. :(

Well, seeing as how the annihilation of the entire human race is at stake we can either be like:






(https://i.imgur.com/JK30dSQ.jpg)





Or we can be like:

(https://i.imgur.com/nlchRW0.png)


I know it's Christmastide and there are more joyful threads to visit.

The Church reminds us that the Christ Child was not born into a world of lasting peace and joy, however.

Today is the Feast of Stephen which is a reminder of the price each of us may be called to pay in the near future.  

We need to be very clear why we may be called to follow in St Stephen's footsteps or we might cave and be very sorry to find ourselves still alive but slaves to a system the likes the world has never seen. 

St Stephen's Day is followed quickly by the Feast of the Holy Innocents with the Holy Babe in the cross hairs of a genocide.

Thank goodness St Joseph was well informed of the enemies plans and didn't ignore the signs.  He had the courage to face the dangers and devise an escape for his family!

May the Holy Angels guide us as well!

May the peace of the Christ Child reign in our hearts despite the war raging all around us!



Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 27, 2021, 08:37:28 AM
Huh, wow, I am glad that I didn't make it through the video then. That stuff seems to be a bit of a heavy focus or maybe even obsession by reading some of the posts here. Very dark and depressing.

It's Christmas, isn't there something more cheerful and happy or lighter we can figure out to talk about? :confused:

I have noticed that with other posts here--sooo much doom and gloom, and very heavy. Many one-trackers with a seeming dark cloud around them. It's a constant case of paranoia, the sky-is-falling, and a weird mix of isolation/in-fighting and dogmatic show-downs here.

This site is getting really old, really fast for me. :(
It's not worth looking into, so I recommend you don't. But, be aware that mostly everything the world pushes as true is tied into some occult religious worldview.

Well, seeing as how the annihilation of the entire human race is at stake we can either be like:










Or we can be like:



I know it's Christmastide and there are more joyful threads to visit.

The Church reminds us that the Christ Child was not born into a world of lasting peace and joy, however.

Today is the Feast of Stephen which is a reminder of the price each of us may be called to pay in the near future. 

We need to be very clear why we may be called to follow in St Stephen's footsteps or we might cave and be very sorry to find ourselves still alive but slaves to a system the likes the world has never seen.

St Stephen's Day is followed quickly by the Feast of the Holy Innocents with the Holy Babe in the cross hairs of a genocide.

Thank goodness St Joseph was well informed of the enemies plans and didn't ignore the signs.  He had the courage to face the dangers and devise an escape for his family!

May the Holy Angels guide us as well!

May the peace of the Christ Child reign in our hearts despite the war raging all around us!
Very well said. We have to be prepared to suffer, to know what is going on in this Valley of Tears. This is all so dark and gloomy because the world is a world of darkness, and it has only gotten worse in the last few years. So it's time to break from the world, see it as it is, and foster a spirit of martyrdom.

(https://www.vcp.de/pfadfinden/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 27, 2021, 09:10:53 AM
He's right.  It's not just about hiding gnosis from the profane uninitiated goyim.  They are creating the Tikkun Olam beast system which rabbis explain is to repair the damage the bad ol' "God the Creator" did in the garden when he divided Adam Kadmon into man and woman rather than the androgynous being he supposedly was according to their belief.

Back on subject, the Tikkun Olam idea is definitely present, as also is the Mithraic idea of transcending this world to the next, an idea central to modern cosmology. As it plays into the same Tikkun Olam idea of repairing a damaged world by moving on to the next out in "space."

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The lyrics to so many songs come to mind with regards to this.

Yes, "Break on Through" by the Doors typically comes to mind when focusing on this subject
(Note the blatant one-eye symbolism)
https://youtu.be/NFeUko-lQHg

It's difficult to break through a closed system like a geocentric Biblical one. So this fantasy cosmology is created and promoted as true in order to initiate the masses into funding this crap. Space is fake and gαy, there is no as above (earth-like worlds) as there is below (the earth itself). Only Heaven and Earth.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Cera on December 27, 2021, 01:44:06 PM
Well, seeing as how the annihilation of the entire human race is at stake we can either be like:






(https://i.imgur.com/JK30dSQ.jpg)





Or we can be like:

(https://i.imgur.com/nlchRW0.png)


I know it's Christmastide and there are more joyful threads to visit.

The Church reminds us that the Christ Child was not born into a world of lasting peace and joy, however.

Today is the Feast of Stephen which is a reminder of the price each of us may be called to pay in the near future. 

We need to be very clear why we may be called to follow in St Stephen's footsteps or we might cave and be very sorry to find ourselves still alive but slaves to a system the likes the world has never seen.

St Stephen's Day is followed quickly by the Feast of the Holy Innocents with the Holy Babe in the cross hairs of a genocide.

Thank goodness St Joseph was well informed of the enemies plans and didn't ignore the signs.  He had the courage to face the dangers and devise an escape for his family!

May the Holy Angels guide us as well!

May the peace of the Christ Child reign in our hearts despite the war raging all around us!
You made my day, Miser. We have the Joy of the Lord, in spite of knowing the plans of the enemy. (As a matter of fact, the more we understand the plans of the enemy, the deeper our dependence on and love of Our Lord and Savior.)

Thus we are drawn closer to Him and to His Mother.

Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Cera on December 27, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
Huh, wow, I am glad that I didn't make it through the video then. That stuff seems to be a bit of a heavy focus or maybe even obsession by reading some of the posts here. Very dark and depressing.

It's Christmas, isn't there something more cheerful and happy or lighter we can figure out to talk about? :confused:
 . . .

This site is getting really old, really fast for me. :(
Guess what? YOU are the one who gets to choose which sites and which threads you want to look at.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 27, 2021, 01:50:37 PM
Guess what? YOU are the one who gets to choose which sites and which threads you want to look at.
Well, DUH. Why would you post something so obvious unless you are on this thread to stir up the pot, again?

I was responding to Digital's post. It was HIS thread and topic, and I showed up on it to learn. Buh-bye now.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Cera on December 27, 2021, 01:52:28 PM
Well, DUH. Why would you post something so obvious unless you are on this thread to stir up the pot, again?

I was responding to Digital's post. It was HIS thread and topic, and I showed up on it to learn. Buh-bye now.



You are the one stirring the pot by saying:
Quote from: Anne Evergreen on Yesterday at 11:09:31 PM (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/cosmo-hegelianism-(not-fe-related)/msg795974/#msg795974)



Quote
Huh, wow, I am glad that I didn't make it through the video then. That stuff seems to be a bit of a heavy focus or maybe even obsession by reading some of the posts here. Very dark and depressing.

It's Christmas, isn't there something more cheerful and happy or lighter we can figure out to talk about? (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/confused1.gif)
 . . .

This site is getting really old, really fast for me.

Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 27, 2021, 02:17:18 PM
Well, seeing as how the annihilation of the entire human race is at stake we can either be like:






(https://i.imgur.com/JK30dSQ.jpg)





Or we can be like:

(https://i.imgur.com/nlchRW0.png)


I know it's Christmastide and there are more joyful threads to visit.

The Church reminds us that the Christ Child was not born into a world of lasting peace and joy, however.

Today is the Feast of Stephen which is a reminder of the price each of us may be called to pay in the near future. 

We need to be very clear why we may be called to follow in St Stephen's footsteps or we might cave and be very sorry to find ourselves still alive but slaves to a system the likes the world has never seen.

St Stephen's Day is followed quickly by the Feast of the Holy Innocents with the Holy Babe in the cross hairs of a genocide.

Thank goodness St Joseph was well informed of the enemies plans and didn't ignore the signs.  He had the courage to face the dangers and devise an escape for his family!

May the Holy Angels guide us as well!

May the peace of the Christ Child reign in our hearts despite the war raging all around us!
Oh my goodness, another DUH. :facepalm: You are preaching to the choir.

You sound like a lady trying to convert a Jehovah's Witness or something. All you need to do is trade places with the Jehovah on the street corner and her pamphlets. Yikes. You fit right in to my point; too many people OVER-ANALYZE stuff, and I am finding a lot of that here. There is a lot of narrow-mindedness and one-track thinking. But if a person is so caught up in it, they will NOT see it! They are in too deep. They look for negative stuff to happen, and so it will. 

I have figured out (without even looking at too many avatars), that I would bet the great majority of people actually posting on the forums have been here a lonnnng time--5 or 10 years or more. I would also bet it is their only social outlet for many, and the prime outlet for many others. Which is fine, because Trads are spread all over, etc. I am not knocking that in itself. 

But if you have ever figured out how groups behave, they all go through certain dynamics and adopt certain roles and hierarchies. It is very clear that this forum has a pecking order and group-think and group dynamics and that there are certain people in certain sub-groups. Make of that what you will.

And if you go looking for martyrdom, well, I am sorry to tell you that you will be disappointed. VERY few people are called to that route. We aren't supposed to actually seek it out either.

Have a nice day, Anne.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 27, 2021, 02:31:37 PM


You are the one stirring the pot by saying:
Quote from: Anne Evergreen on Yesterday at 11:09:31 PM (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/cosmo-hegelianism-(not-fe-related)/msg795974/#msg795974)
Lady, I came onto a guy's thread trying to learn about the Cosmos and stars and things. I was trying to understand and learn something from him, because I found some of his other points of view interesting. He seems highly intelligent.

Astronomy? That's why I clicked on his thread. I enjoy watching stars. I thought there might be some connection, but I am guessing they are in another realm. Anyway, go back to your mending or washing or whatever you want. You have a bee in your bonnet for other reasons, and it is quite obvious you are taking your wrath out on people not connected to your chapel problems. I tried to help you at first, but gave up. 

And yeah, many of the topics here are obscure, and that is why I am losing interest. Why is that any skin off your nose? 
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 27, 2021, 05:34:22 PM
This thread :facepalm:

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/22fa8bec81fc2a7c465dbef71fced922/tenor.gif?itemid=15835894)
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Cera on December 28, 2021, 06:39:03 PM
This thread :facepalm:

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/22fa8bec81fc2a7c465dbef71fced922/tenor.gif?itemid=15835894)
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: Meg on December 29, 2021, 10:47:48 AM
I've been listening to this guy's videos lately, and he has some pretty interesting critiques of modern cosmology. I don't know what flavor of Christian he is, probably not trad Catholic given some of the language he uses, but the points he makes are good.

Language warning.
https://youtu.be/UklbZSdhE5Q

I watched about half of the video. Some very good points are made. He may be right about the kabbalistic connection with NASA and the new cosmological worldview. I had assumed previously that NASA and the rest of the new cosmologists were pagan or atheistic. I'll have to reconsider. 

He sounds Catholic, but it's difficult to tell. Some Catholics do use bad language. There are worse things.
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on December 29, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
I watched about half of the video. Some very good points are made. He may be right about the kabbalistic connection with NASA and the new cosmological worldview. I had assumed previously that NASA and the rest of the new cosmologists were pagan or atheistic. I'll have to reconsider.

He sounds Catholic, but it's difficult to tell. Some Catholics do use bad language. There are worse things.
It's definitely worth looking into NASA if you'd like. Jack Parsons is the man you'll want to investigate first, as he was heavily involved in the occult and worked closely with Aleister Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard. He conducted rocket experiments for the US Government in a program that preceded NASA, as well as weird occult experiments in an effort to create a "homunculus" with the aid of Aleister Crowley. Parsons even believed himself to be the Antichrist and was raised up to be such by the Theosophists and OTO.

I honestly don't know where Jimbob stands in the broad range of "Churchianity". I know he's been on Jay Dyer's channel a few times, so maybe EO, but the one discussion I watched didn't touch on his personal beliefs. And as for the language, I catch myself doing it at times too, I just make sure to place a warning as not to scandalize anyone.

If you can tolerate Jay (I actually don't mind him when he talks on things other than theology), this podcast actually does a good job laying out the connections of Crowley, Parsons and NASA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlI2T2i9Wzk
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: DigitalLogos on January 06, 2022, 06:44:27 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: Cosmo Hegelianism (not FE-related)
Post by: cassini on January 08, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
Lady, I came onto a guy's thread trying to learn about the Cosmos and stars and things. I was trying to understand and learn something from him, because I found some of his other points of view interesting. He seems highly intelligent.

Astronomy? That's why I clicked on his thread. I enjoy watching stars. I thought there might be some connection, but I am guessing they are in another realm. Anyway, go back to your mending or washing or whatever you want. You have a bee in your bonnet for other reasons, and it is quite obvious you are taking your wrath out on people not connected to your chapel problems. I tried to help you at first, but gave up.

And yeah, many of the topics here are obscure, and that is why I am losing interest. Why is that any skin off your nose?

Here is something worthy of debate Anne;

‘The story which the Zodiac unfolds in the course of the year lies in the meanings of these names given by God to each of the star-clusters [‘Praise the lord: He tells the number of the stars; he calls each by name' (Psalms 146)] in its forty-eight constellations when He set them in order in the beginning, making of them, as the Psalmist says: “faithful witnesses in heaven” (Ps. 88:38) of His plan for the world… Put in proper order, beginning not with Aries as now deployed, [Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces] but with Virgo and ending with Leo rather than with Pisces, the Zodiac foretold in the stars the story of the Incarnation, the Redemption and the world to come long before the Bible was written. Virgo is of course the Blessed Virgin and Leo is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lion of Judah, universal Lord of Creation. (This incidentally, provides the answer to the mystery of the Sphinx which, having the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion is therefore simply a representation in stone of the ancient Zodiac).’---Solange Hertz: The Sixth Trumpet, Remnant Press, Minnesota, 2002, p.11.