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Offline Tradman

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Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2023, 10:07:04 AM »
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    • Thanks for the info Cassini. It is a shame Newman was taken in by modern science to the point he felt the need to criticize Church authorities and decisions.  One interesting thing, and to his credit, Newman said, " If she affirms, as I do not think she will affirm, that everything was made and finished in a moment though Scripture seems to say otherwise, and though science seems to prove otherwise, I affirm it too, and with an inward and sincere assent."  

    He should have refrained from his opinions, even if he didn't think the Church would affirm something contrary to what he believed because none of the science he believed was doctrine either. He did say he would give his inward and sincere assent to the Church.  That's got to account for something.  Frustrating in any event.  
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #16 on: November 21, 2023, 11:03:16 AM »
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    • ‘For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and will show great signs and wonders,
    so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.’ (Matthew 24:24)

    Then there was Archbishop Fulton Sheen, another revered churchman who fell for the wonders of science.
     
    ‘Recently I was happy to read a similar assessment by Venerable Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen (1895-1979) written after the 1962 monitum. In an article on Teilhard entitled Personality: Earth and Heaven, Venerable Sheen wrote: “It is very likely that when all the trivial, verbal disputes about Teilhard's ‘unfortunate’ vocabulary will have died away or have taken a secondary place, Teilhard will appear like John of the Cross or Saint Teresa of Avila, as a spiritual genius of the twentieth century.” (Footprints in a Darkened Forest by Fulton Sheen, Meredith Press, 1967, Chapter 6)’--- In the Fullness of Time, 20th anniversary of Venerable Sheen’s death, p.72.

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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 12:15:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on November 21, 2023, 11:03:16 AM
    ‘For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and will show great signs and wonders,
    so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.’ (Matthew 24:24)

    Then there was Archbishop Fulton Sheen, another revered churchman who fell for the wonders of science.
     
    ‘Recently I was happy to read a similar assessment by Venerable Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen (1895-1979) written after the 1962 monitum. In an article on Teilhard entitled Personality: Earth and Heaven, Venerable Sheen wrote: “It is very likely that when all the trivial, verbal disputes about Teilhard's ‘unfortunate’ vocabulary will have died away or have taken a secondary place, Teilhard will appear like John of the Cross or Saint Teresa of Avila, as a spiritual genius of the twentieth century.” (Footprints in a Darkened Forest by Fulton Sheen, Meredith Press, 1967, Chapter 6)’--- In the Fullness of Time, 20th anniversary of Venerable Sheen’s death, p.72.


    Maybe he was being facetious... and/or prophesying? Not like all of us weren't duped. We are luckier than they were (in access to info) because we have everything at hand. It's disturbing to see the erosion of truth through the ages.     
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 01:28:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on November 21, 2023, 11:03:16 AM
    Sheen:
     
    Teilhard will appear like John of the Cross or Saint Teresa of Avila, as a spiritual genius of the twentieth century
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    Recently I have really backed away from Bp. Sheen. I know a lot of trads like his pre-Vatican 2 literature and TV shows, but I don't see how someone like this can have the Faith, or ever had it. I no longer read any of his writings at all, and don't recommend him to others.
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 07:53:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on November 16, 2023, 11:40:40 AM
    Incredible 12 minute video explaining the philosophical principles behind Heliocentrism, to include the Geostationary globe.  Traces the history of Copernicanism to modern pseudo science and boils it all down to: Materialism vs. Scripture. 



    Strong video. Sometimes it's easy to forget just how isolated we are from others due to our beliefs.
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #20 on: November 22, 2023, 06:56:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 21, 2023, 07:53:24 PM
    Strong video. Sometimes it's easy to forget just how isolated we are from others due to our beliefs.
    Found this video from the same guy.


    "Everything that is going on right now, the whole debate, it already happened a 100 years ago"
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #21 on: November 22, 2023, 07:05:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 22, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
    Found this video from the same guy.


    "Everything that is going on right now, the whole debate, it already happened a 100 years ago"


    This video as well was extremely useful for perspective.
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #22 on: November 22, 2023, 08:00:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 22, 2023, 07:05:56 AM


    This video as well was extremely useful for perspective.
    https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/01/16/the-gnostic-myth-of-darwinism/comment-page-1/

    This article from 2005 really breaks down evolution and gnostic thought and freemasonsry/communism/nαzιs etc. He doesn't mention the jews but you can just see the usual suspects...
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #23 on: November 22, 2023, 10:04:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 22, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
    Found this video from the same guy.


    "Everything that is going on right now, the whole debate, it already happened a 100 years ago"
    Excellent video, especially the Scripture apology at the end.  Basically, how can people put trust in Scripture in spiritual matters if it can't be trusted in regarding the physical?  
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #24 on: November 22, 2023, 10:29:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 22, 2023, 08:00:34 AM
    https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/01/16/the-gnostic-myth-of-darwinism/comment-page-1/

    This article from 2005 really breaks down evolution and gnostic thought and freemasonsry/communism/nαzιs etc. He doesn't mention the Jєωs but you can just see the usual suspects...

    Talks about the division of Christians on the subject of flat earth. Confronts the idea of flat earthers being "stupid" and how the unwillingness of men to be stupid leads to their damnation, since those who fear being thought of as stupid will be unwilling to deny the mark of the beast.  If flat earthers are stupid, it is for the wisdom of God, because the wisdom of the world is foolishness to God.  Pits the veracity of Scripture against the science of men.  The narrator's voice is almost deceptive in it's calm assertive tone while you know what he's saying is absolutely true.  Excellent post.           
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #25 on: November 22, 2023, 05:31:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on November 22, 2023, 10:29:43 AM

    Talks about the division of Christians on the subject of flat earth. Confronts the idea of flat earthers being "stupid" and how the unwillingness of men to be stupid leads to their damnation, since those who fear being thought of as stupid will be unwilling to deny the mark of the beast.  If flat earthers are stupid, it is for the wisdom of God, because the wisdom of the world is foolishness to God.  Pits the veracity of Scripture against the science of men.  The narrator's voice is almost deceptive in it's calm assertive tone while you know what he's saying is absolutely true.  Excellent post.         
    He articulated well what we understand subconsciously. The guy really seems to be grounded, though I'm not sure if he is Catholic or not.
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    Re: Copernicanism: Hidden Destroyer of God and Creation
    « Reply #26 on: November 23, 2023, 12:47:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 22, 2023, 05:31:32 PM
    He articulated well what we understand subconsciously. The guy really seems to be grounded, though I'm not sure if he is Catholic or not.
    Never mind after watching some of his other videos he is just another protestant.
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