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Offline Philothea3

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Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #255 on: August 18, 2022, 09:49:04 PM »
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  • GE would say that tilt and wobble of the earth. But, if it were laid out on a FE map, it would be a concentric ring around the polar region.

    Much like this comparison of the jet stream:


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    This article for GE actually mapped the aurora on FE...
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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #256 on: August 18, 2022, 10:04:46 PM »
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  • Can you show me the hours of the day and the phases of the Moon around the Earth in complete accordance with an almanac based on this view?


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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #257 on: August 19, 2022, 01:14:19 AM »
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  • The flat Earth is like school in summer. No class. 

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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #258 on: August 19, 2022, 01:24:25 AM »
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  • Said with a noteworthy lack thereof.  Stunning, or not.
    Put up the celestial almanac that'll show me one 24 hour day in the summer for the flat Earth. It'll be another Salvador Dali puppet show but I would like to see it. I value entertainment here as well as anywhere.

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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #259 on: August 19, 2022, 01:28:32 AM »
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  • ... the terrestrial surface and celestial hours almanac and map in one-to-one correspondence.


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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #260 on: August 19, 2022, 04:57:09 PM »
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  • Curious about people's position and their certainty in the position they hold and maybe a quick description of your beliefs. Before the FE discussions I would say I had 95% confidence but have thought of some interesting FE arguments that definitely erode my certainty.

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    For me, it's a simple matter of direct personal observation, primarily, and then indirectly through the use of reliable scientific instruments such as surveying equipment and astronomical observations.

    I have seen how the elevation of mountain peaks in the distance, when observed from a very high vantage point, can only be explained by the surface of the earth being curved as if it were a globe.

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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #261 on: August 19, 2022, 05:09:47 PM »
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  • Welcome back, Neil, after almost three years. Cause for rejoicing!
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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #262 on: August 19, 2022, 06:01:29 PM »
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  • Can you show me the hours of the day and the phases of the Moon around the Earth in complete accordance with an almanac based on this view?
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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #263 on: August 19, 2022, 09:56:22 PM »
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  • I just learned today about many centuries old astrolabe, armillary sphere, and celestial globe devices. I have very little understanding so far as to how they work, but were they made assuming the earth is a globe?

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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #264 on: August 19, 2022, 11:59:27 PM »
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  • Were you the kid who always got someone else to do your homework?
    Flat earthism can't do it. They don't have the illustration. It's like a flat hourglass but the hourglass needs the intersection of two planes at 90". Psalm 22 ends with the words "in longitudinem dierum", pour de longs jours. Let the Sun himself be the psalmist there, since he does have long days, and he's always descending and rising at the same time over the great circle of longitudes around the Earth. The Sun lights up the face of the Earth in 180" degrees of longitude for a side as it moves in close connection between longitude and time measurement around the globe.

    The Earth's atmosphere captures and magnifies sunlight on a great and total scale across the whole face of it, yet always only half of the Earth at a time, since it is a sphere. A flat Earth can't show the hours of the day around the Earth and the phases of the Moon at the same time truly. They have to make a crazy desk-like tabulation with the sun like a little flashlight just lighting up little focused parts at a time. They also have to have everybody on "one side", when they mean the surface. If one wants to call the whole spherical surface one side, they are all on one side, of course, the one side that goes all the spherical way around, but only half or one face is day and the other is always night. The Sun doesn't disappear behind a mountain or a curtain at the end of the day. It never disappears. It's just around the other side when it's night as it lights up the whole other side.

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    Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
    « Reply #265 on: August 20, 2022, 12:05:21 AM »
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  • I just learned today about many centuries old astrolabe, armillary sphere, and celestial globe devices. I have very little understanding so far as to how they work, but were they made assuming the earth is a globe?


    yes, since they assume the celestial and terrestrial equators as one plane and the celestial and terrestrial poles (the pillars of the Earth) as another intersecting plane. The Sun moves laterally through the constellations of the ecliptic and also at inclined angles to the poles.