Author Topic: % Confidence in Earth's Shape (Read 88788 times)

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #200 on:** August 12, 2022, 08:51:11 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on August 12, 2022, 08:46:17 AM

Right, not everything God created is a sphere, including the height of his creation, man.

At one point I saw a fascinating video showing how the Fibonacci pattern is present in much of nature.

And, finally, as you've pointed out, we DO see the world as a sphere, with the dome above and the hemisphere below. We just don't think that we live on the surface of said sphere.

So...Fibonacci-shaped earth then?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #201 on:** August 12, 2022, 11:53:20 AM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on August 12, 2022, 08:51:11 AM

So...Fibonacci-shaped earth then?

... yeah, the same chance Jim Carrey had in that scene there.

Donachie · « **Reply #202 on:** August 12, 2022, 09:41:44 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on August 12, 2022, 08:46:17 AM

Right, not everything God created is a sphere, including the height of his creation, man.

At one point I saw a fascinating video showing how the Fibonacci pattern is present in much of nature.

And, finally, as you've pointed out, we DO see the world as a sphere, with the dome above and the hemisphere below. We just don't think that we live on the surface of said sphere.

If people want to believe in the flat Earth, I don't want to make fun of them or be rude. Salvador Dali could maybe believe in it and fit it in an art gallery.

I'd say that everything refers to "as" (as this or as that: there's an "as") and every "as" refers to "is". The "as" and the "is" on one side refer to the indivisible, and on the other to the divisible. Between these two there is a great sphere of differentiation, a great sphere of difference. All other things are all in spheres of differentiation too. There is a sphere of differentiation that relates the nature and properties of the human hand as it is, for example, and then to everything else. I'd say this also parallels the experience that the smallest element in cause and effect is at least a point, some point of cause, and every point contains its own sphere.

The mind naturally associates division with lines and halves. Cut separation in so many divisions, so many lines, so many halves. The old philosophers sometimes had trouble working out the problem of plurality and oneness, because it seemed the number of divisions could potentially be innumerable (like Zeno of Elea said a man can never leave his room) and how could so many, the great plurality, proceed from one if the one was really one? Either the many or the one were not quite right in the relation.

Zeno concluded motion and every difference were illusions. Well, in this case of discussion, i'd say that the Earth is one and so is the Sun, and the Sun lights up all of it. The Sun lights up the face of the Earth, even the whole face of the Earth, etc. How can a flat Earth deal with this? That the Sun lights up the whole face of the Earth all the time?

Some will say the Sun does not light up the whole Earth but only part of it. This is true too, but it does light up the face of the Earth, and in this simple expression one can tell that it's the whole face that is lit up.

So how many faces are there in the whole then or how many sides in the whole sphere? More than two.

In the spherical Earth, it's not as much of a problem that the Sun does light up the whole face of the Earth but only one side at a time. It has many equal sides more than two, which I would think is the best the flat earth could do: two sides, like Janus maybe for the flat Earth. Whereas the spherical Earth has almost an infinite number of sides to balance all the problems of space and geometry, at the same time with the whole face lit by the Sun. Through the method of spherical separation in division and by comparison, things and the divisions in them, that also work like lines, for this side or that side, come out more complete and well reckoned. Like Al-Kindi rays maybe, a sphere for everything and everything its sphere.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #203 on:** August 12, 2022, 10:29:15 PM »

Quote from: Donachie on August 12, 2022, 09:41:44 PM

If people want to believe in the flat Earth, I don't want to make fun of them or be rude.

OK, but I just don't find your argument convincing. Just because people believe that a sphere is the perfect shape does not mean that God must create EVERYthing as a sphere or that He made the earth a sphere.

Donachie · « **Reply #204 on:** August 12, 2022, 10:47:18 PM »

Do you admit that the Sun and Moon are spheres and cut the plane of the ecliptic at inclined angles in 3-D space?

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