Author Topic: % Confidence in Earth's Shape (Read 89541 times)

bodeens · « **Reply #80 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:46:09 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on August 04, 2022, 01:44:50 PM

Yeah, if I were rich I'd like to get a nice telescope and test out some of this stuff personally.

You'd be surprised how gullible people are, when they WANT to be/stay deceived.

I know a man who's a near-genius at electronics -- Dave Jones, of EEVblog fame -- he really knows his stuff -- but he unironically likes (and believes in) that recent NASA photo of the moon crossing the earth. He had it as his PC background wallpaper.

Having cast off the Faith of his Fathers, he is now wandering in the wilderness, the closest thing to religion in his life is "science". He does debunk some modern climate-saving "snake oil" schemes like Solar Roadways, but that's only because they give other science-worshipers like himself a bad name. Kind of like many Trads get hot and angry over other Trads that give them a bad name. That seems to be a very human condition.

Kids do take quite a bit of money... You and your older son (I remember you posted about him liking ham radio and passing his tests so this seems like another good one for you both) could try assembling www.thingiverse.con/thing:408184... Should only be a few hundred and it has an 8" primary. If you don't have a large printer then there are other designs out there to buy/print... 12" scopes are around a thousand bucks preassembled, 8" you can shop around for maybe 4-500 assembled and shipped in case printing is not your thing.

St Giles · « **Reply #81 on:** August 04, 2022, 05:23:03 PM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on August 04, 2022, 01:11:08 PM

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not particularly 100% convinced by p900 and p1000 videos of stars. I'll have to see about getting a decent telescope once we sell our house.

Not long ago I was hoping to get a budget go-to 12" which can be had for ~$1000 or so, and try to mount a good non-telescope specific camera to it if possible, to hopefully get some decent deep space images of a neighboring galaxy or something. If I had the money I'd try to build an array, like with 4 of those 12" scopes to equal a 24", but at a fraction of the cost.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #82 on:** August 04, 2022, 08:06:36 PM »

Quote from: apollo on August 04, 2022, 03:45:02 PM

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Well, then don't watch the video. I did not post this reply for people
who prefer to stick their head in the sand.

You're the one sticking your head in the sand. Mr. Dave's videos are sheer nonsense. But it figures coming from someone who chose a pagan sun god as his forum name. You've already decided that the earth can't be flat, refuse to objectively consider the evidence, and apply confirmation bias to that which you believe supports your position. I've objectively looked at both sides, but I find absolutely none of Mr. Dave's "proofs" to be the least bit convincing.

Donachie · « **Reply #83 on:** August 04, 2022, 08:12:24 PM »

100% sure that it's a sphere, but heliocentrics would like to say that it's an "oblate spheroid" due to "gravity", but "gravity" so-called is not even any kind of lateral force, and weight by itself, which is real gravity, does not constitute a source of motion.

Aristotle and Plato had it right imo. The formation of the Earth itself was spherical. It's like Empedocles and Meteorology. There are only three kinds of motion among all the elements: from the center to the center and around the center, as like goes to like and things that are alike increase, etc. The Earth is condensed as a sphere at rest at the center of the cosmos which is entirely 3-D. A sphere gives perfect balance to all the many sides of vanishing flatness that it has, and has the same relation to the infinite as to the center or circuмference.

Donachie · « **Reply #84 on:** August 04, 2022, 11:16:20 PM »

Al-Ghazali wrote that "the body of the heavens proceeds from only one and the same simple entity and the simple can cause only that which is simple of shape, namely the sphere, and that which is perfectly homogeneous, that is, has no special distinguishable character."

All the tangent sides of a sphere are the same, and innumerable, and the sphere itself has one side overall in the surface, of which all points are the same difference. There's no distinction between up or down or lateral or vertical in a true sphere. Labels, of relative position among things, begin to separate out the parts.

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