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Offline Emile

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Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2022, 08:57:22 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on August 03, 2022, 06:47:09 PM
So, I recall when I was a child and took a few flights over a couple years between Cleveland and Hungary (direct flight always with a full plane).  We always flew over Gander Air Force Base in Newfoundland.  After checking out a globe map, I asked my dad why that was, since that did seem to be really out of the way vs. a direct line.  He told me that regulations required that passenger planes always remain within a certain distance of land.  Not sure if he heard that somewhere, but I have since learned that this was entirely untrue.  While this route is not as bad as the Southern Hemisphere routes, if you plot a direct line between Cleveland and Hungary on a flat earth map, it's dead on a straight line between the two.

EDIT:  So I looked it up and it still show on a map as taking that route.  Again, not extremely pronounced, since there's much less of a difference in the Northern Hemisphere.  But still ... why?  Why would you take this curved route when you could just make a straight line ... and save some time and some fuel?

https://tinyurl.com/mr3vpcas

Put this on an FE map and it's a straight line.
That is interesting. The possibility that comes to mind is that they take advantage of the jet-stream. A stout tailwind could save a lot of fuel, even if the distance is longer.


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Record-breaking jet stream accelerates air travel; flight clocks in at 801 mph

On Monday night, the river of air 35,000 feet above the New York City area, known as the jet stream, clocked in at a blazing 231 mph.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/record-breaking-jet-stream-accelerates-air-travel-flight-clocks-in-at-801-mph/509-a2c66763-4514-49b8-93e0-88892afd58fc
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2022, 10:06:37 PM »
Quote from: Emile on August 03, 2022, 08:57:22 PM
That is interesting. The possibility that comes to mind is that they take advantage of the jet-stream. A stout tailwind could save a lot of fuel, even if the distance is longer.

Perhaps.  Speaking of jet streams, there's an interesting comparison of what they look like on a globe vs. flat earth.


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Offline Matthew

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Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2022, 10:13:05 PM »
There's a booklet "16 emergency landings proving Flat Earth" -- and I agree. One of the biggest proof of Flat Earth out there. Globers can only stand with their mouths open, having absolutely no explanation to offer.

https://www.flatearthresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/covered16emergencylandingsprovingflatearth-191007025918_compressed.pdf
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Offline Nadir

Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2022, 10:19:43 PM »
Quote from: Cera on August 03, 2022, 05:52:48 PM
45) On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.


Re accessing Madagascar from Australia, there are direct flights from Perth to Jo'burg, with no stopovers to refuel, then a lighter plane from Jo'burg to Antanarivo. Then Perth's latitude is -31 while Joburg is -26.

Interestingly, the east-west flight takes 10hr 45min while west-east flight takes 9hr 20min over the same distance. An hr  25min difference, which is greatly appreciated if your travelling with a full load of passengers.

I do believe that there are practical concerns such a demand and marketing that play a large parts in necessary diversions, e.g. you cannot fly direct Sydney-Antanarivo simply because the demand is not there.
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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: % Confidence in Earth's Shape
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2022, 10:59:30 PM »
Quote from: Nadir on August 03, 2022, 10:19:43 PM
Re accessing Madagascar from Australia, there are direct flights from Perth to Jo'burg, with no stopovers to refuel, then a lighter plane from Jo'burg to Antanarivo. Then Perth's latitude is -31 while Joburg is -26.

Interestingly, the east-west flight takes 10hr 45min while west-east flight takes 9hr 20min over the same distance. An hr  25min difference, which is greatly appreciated if your travelling with a full load of passengers.

I do believe that there are practical concerns such a demand and marketing that play a large parts in necessary diversions, e.g. you cannot fly direct Sydney-Antanarivo simply because the demand is not there.
Not debating you specifically but just adding comments to yours:

Tail winds and jet streams can make a very big difference in flying times.  There are some very powerful jet streams in the southern hemisphere.  There are some good videos available on that topic.

However a 1000 mile per hour spin is not part of that equation and is really absurd when you consider that planes fly 500 mph.  If the earth spun below they could just hover and arrive at their destination. LOL  I don't think most people here believe in the spin though.  Yet some are incredulous to the idea of FE because "so many people would have to be in on it".  Well they fooled a lot of people with the spinning earth lie so why would FE be any different? 

As for flight routes: the commercial aspect of the strange flight routes is one thing but the emergency landings (see the vid I posted in earlier post) which only make sense on a flat earth are whole different story.
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