WHAT?
You are way out of line with this outrageous lie!  
This type of behavior can't possible be allowed.

I'm glad his comment was deleted, it was WAY out of line.  Hopefully he has been banned.

Thanks for your objectivity.
What is going on here is that the globalist Neil and his other alias JohnAnthonyMarie, are annoyed by this video because it presents an accurate and brief synopsis for the flat earth argument from a Catholic perspective. It is what a lot of people have been looking for.
This is why Neil is trying to promote his other thread, which puts us on the the defensive and pushes down this thread down the ranks.
But he won't stop there. Next will come incessant pms to Matthew. If they haven't started already, they will, don't worry. 1st Mansion tenant started the ball rolling on it with her " talked to another person" line. Classic revolutionary tactics, which is all about generating an illusion of support to create pressure.
From their perspective it is perfectly logical. They have to suppress this topic because it embarrasses them. They don't want to have to face up to the reality.

But as Matthew the admin has said already; what have they got to fear? They have the whole world with them anyway.

I think that honest people who are not even flat earthers can judge fruits here.

First of all, it wasn't a "line". (Using that term seems tantamount to calling me some kind of lying troublemaker. Is that what you're going for here?)  It really happened, I was really discussing some of the views put forward here with an educated person with a background in hard sciences to hear their opinion. That was their actual response. So, it's no "line" that I fabricated to cause complaints to Matthew. Matthew is a big boy, he can decide for himself what he wants on his forum, whether to create a subforum, or whether to forbid the subject wholesale. All the "incessant pms" in the world won't budge him if he thinks he's in the right. If you've been around very long you should know that. So if you think I'm using some "revolutionary tactics" to generate an illusion of support to create pressure", you're delusional. My record here speaks for itself; I calls 'em as I see's 'em, and that's all there is to it. 

At first I thought those last two posts were a waste of time, but I am now very happy you put them up.

They show a few things. First, how little you actually have followed the flat earth threads and seen how disgraceful and dishonest Neils behaviour has been. You really should be ashamed that you are defending him at all. I'm not attacking you for not having followed flat earth, (we all have busy lives) but you need to get up to speed a little before commenting on all this.

You yourself said in another thread only recently

"I have never given this subject much thought, so please excuse my ignorance." . Ignorance is fine, we have to be ignorant before you we know, but the context of all this is that it is a small minority of globetrolls who have been engaging in very hostile behavior to us flat earthers. Why don't you just watch the video and start asking questions instead of attacking us without thinking. We're all willing to have civil conversations about it insofar as we have the time.

Hope we can have that chat soon.

Thanks for your objectivity.
What is going on here is that the globalist Neil and his other alias JohnAnthonyMarie, are annoyed by this video because it presents an accurate and brief synopsis for the flat earth argument from a Catholic perspective. It is what a lot of people have been looking for.
This is why Neil is trying to promote his other thread, which puts us on the the defensive and pushes down this thread down the ranks.
But he won't stop there. Next will come incessant pms to Matthew. If they haven't started already, they will, don't worry. 1st Mansion tenant started the ball rolling on it with her " talked to another person" line. Classic revolutionary tactics, which is all about generating an illusion of support to create pressure.
From their perspective it is perfectly logical. They have to suppress this topic because it embarrasses them. They don't want to have to face up to the reality.

But as Matthew the admin has said already; what have they got to fear? They have the whole world with them anyway.

I think that honest people who are not even flat earthers can judge fruits here.

My my, the tactics of you global earthers are getting as near to blasphemy as you can get. Totally unable to reply to the anti-flat-earth science offered by me and others earlier, you simply ignore it and and push the ridiculous notion that flat-earthism is upheld by the Catholic faith. It is not and to say so brings the Catholic faith into dispute.

"It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are." --- St Augustine.

There are many readers of this forum, I am sure, who, upon reading this flat-earthism, a position CONTRARY to the sciences and human reasoning, who must laugh at what some Catholics believe in, bring the faith down to the level of a idiotic belief. This is exactly what is happening since this flat-earthism arrived on this and other Catholic forums. Just read through a few of them and you can see the HARM it is having amoung Catholics.

It is patently obvious you avoid answering the scientific arguments and the conspiracy theories you say is ongoing among thousands and thousands of people and institutions that are beyond belief. The idea that no aeroplane has ever flown over the 'edge' of your flat earth, which would have happened if it were true, is another joke. Next you will be saying aeroplanes are like rockets and satellites, fiction.

Here above you are defending your right to post your position. Fair enough. But posting a position requires that you defend it against objections put up by those opposed to the assertions made in the opening post and those that follow. I posted serious scientific reasons why flat-earthism is not true science. For one that six-mile 'proof' that the earth is not curved is a joke as the curve can only be detected scientifically over a few thousand miles. Yet you simply ignore or dismiss the arguments hoping the 'Catholic faith' of your victims will suffice. Such an abuse of the Catholic faith in my eyes is a sin against that faith.

At first I thought those last two posts were a waste of time, but I am now very happy you put them up.

They show a few things. First, how little you actually have followed the flat earth threads and seen how disgraceful and dishonest Neils behaviour has been. You really should be ashamed that you are defending him at all. I'm not attacking you for not having followed flat earth, (we all have busy lives) but you need to get up to speed a little before commenting on all this.

You yourself said in another thread only recently

"I have never given this subject much thought, so please excuse my ignorance." . Ignorance is fine, we have to be ignorant before you we know, but the context of all this is that it is a small minority of globetrolls who have been engaging in very hostile behavior to us flat earthers. Why don't you just watch the video and start asking questions instead of attacking us without thinking. We're all willing to have civil conversations about it insofar as we have the time.

Hope we can have that chat soon.

I don't really understand why there's such hostility toward flat-earthers. Cassini even goes so far as to say that it's a sin against the Catholic Faith to believe in a flat earth. Which is ridiculous. I certainly would never say that it's a sin to believe in a globe earth, since our salvation isn't dependent on what we believe the shape of the earth to be.

I believe that a flat earth lends itself to a stronger belief in God, in that, for example, when we pray, our prayers are offered to God who is ABOVE us. Aren't our prayers as to be as incense going up to God, as it is described in Holy Mass?

On a spherical earth, which direction is God? I've not yet seen a globe-earther who can answer this. Since Our Lord sits on the right hand of God the Father, then it seems only logical that God the Father is above us. The ancient Hebrews believed in a flat-plane earth. They based their belief on what is written in the Old Testament account of the earth. Globe-earthers seem to believe the ancient Hebrews were wrong to believe in a flat earth.  

What I said was that it was a sin in my opinion to USE THE CATHOLIC FAITH to try to get people to believe in a flat erarth. A flat earth has NOTHING to do with the Catholic faith IN ANY WAY. That is my main reason to opppose this video and other such posts.

It seems you are unable to answer the scientific and practical reasons that show that we do not live on a flat-earth. Instead you come up with the garbage that only a flat earth has an UP for God and heaven. To be honest this is a debate I cannot believe has any credibility left to it.
 
It sounds to me some are regurgitating the past.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Speculations concerning the rotundity of the earth and the possible existence of human beings "with their feet turned towards ours" were of interest to the Fathers of the Early Church only in so far as they seemed to encroach upon the fundamental Christian dogma of the unity of the human race, and the consequent universality of original sin and redemption. This is clearly seen from the following passage of St. Augustine (City of God XVI.9):

This opinion of St. Augustine was commonly held until the progress of science, whilst confirming his main contention that the human race is one, dissipated the scruples arising from a defective knowledge of geography. A singular exception occurs to us in the middle of the eighth century. From a letter of Pope St. Zachary (1 May, 748, addressed to St. Boniface, we learn that the great Apostle of Germany had invoked the papal censure upon a certain missionary among the Bavarians named Vergilius, generally supposed to be identical with the renowned Ferghil, an Irishman, and later Archbishop of Salzburg. Among other alleged misdeeds and errors was numbered that of holding "that beneath the earth there was another world and other men, another sun and moon". In reply, the Pope directs St. Boniface to convoke a council and, "if it be made clear" that Vergilius adheres to this "perverse teaching, contrary to the Lord and to his own soul", to "expel him from the Church, deprived of his priestly dignity". This is the only information that we possess regarding an incident which is made to figure largely in the imaginary warfare between theology and science.
That Vergilius was ever really tried, condemned, or forced to retract, is an assumption without any foundation in history. On the contrary, if he was in fact the future Archbishop of Salzburg, it is more natural to conclude that he succeeded in convincing his censors that by "other men" he did not understand a race of human beings not descended from Adam and redeemed by the Lord; for it is patent that this was the feature of his teaching which appeared to the Pope to be "perverse" and "contrary to the Lord".

Cassini,

I'm not going to respond to you further. Your contempt for flat-earthers and their (our) views is obvious, and it makes no sense to debate with you. I'm not so good with the scientific end of the issue. Even so, I would be willing to try to debate with a well-intentioned person who does not agree with the flat earth. You are not well-intentioned. You are hostile. 

To all the heliocentric model believers, the Church has spoken.  Heliocentrism is condemned.  There are two other doctrinal teachings on the subject as well: 1. Jerusalem is in the center of the earth. 2. There are no antipodes, that is, no one is walking around upside down to other people.  Of all the saints that taught anything about the subject of the flat earth, all described in some detail the form of the earth--flat and joined to the firmament of heaven.  Some, like Aquinas only mention their contrary beliefs and do not teach on the subject at all.  One hundred percent of pagans espouse, promote and bully people regarding the heliocentric round earth as an integral teaching of their model.