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Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
« Reply #180 on: September 16, 2017, 11:31:45 PM »
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    See how my pictures get re-posted and I don't have to repeat myself! This is great.  ;D
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    Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #181 on: September 17, 2017, 10:36:34 AM »
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    Flat-earthers yearn to identify with antiquity, and they imagine a certain popularity of their present kind of thinking long ago:
                            
    Round earthers yearn to identify with modernism and live the greatest popularity of their present thinking.


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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #182 on: September 17, 2017, 12:40:14 PM »
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    See how my pictures get re-posted and I don't have to repeat myself! This is great.  ;D
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    Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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    Your CGIS' are not pictures.
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #183 on: September 17, 2017, 04:29:07 PM »
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  • So the bottom line is:  Columbus was wrong after all?  :furtive:
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #184 on: September 17, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »
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  • So the bottom line is:  Columbus was wrong after all?  :furtive:
    Columbus was a flat earther.


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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #185 on: September 17, 2017, 05:40:45 PM »
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  • Columbus was a flat earther.
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    If Columbus believed in a "flat" earth, then why did he bother with crow's nests? 
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #186 on: September 17, 2017, 05:47:01 PM »
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  • His crew was flat-earth.

    He was round-earth.

    :incense:   Or so the nuns told us.   
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #187 on: September 17, 2017, 06:00:56 PM »
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    Regarding evidence for the shape of the earth in the day of Colombus:
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    "Columbus was about 2,000 years too late for this quest. Ancient Greek mathematicians had already proven that the earth was round, not flat. Pythagoras in the sixth century B.C. was one of the originators of the idea. Aristotle in the fourth century B.C. provided the physical evidence, such as the shadow of the Earth on the moon, and the curvature of the earth known by all sailors approaching land, and by the third century B.C., Eratosthenes determined the earth's shape, and circumference using basic geometry. In the second century A.D., Claudius Ptolemy wrote the “Almagest,” the mathematical and astronomical treatise on planetary shapes and motions, describing the spherical Earth. [5 Toomer Chapter 2] This text was well-known throughout educated Europe in Columbus’s time.
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    "The Columbus flat-earth myth more than likely originated with Washington Irving's 1828 biography of Columbus [6 Russell, Page 64]; there's no mention of this before this biography, and his crew wasn't nervous about falling off the Earth. In volume two, chapter four of this biography Irving writes, an (more than likely, false) account of ignorant and bigoted members on the commission who had raised scriptural objections to Columbus's assertions that the Earth was spherical [7. Irving, page 215]."

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #188 on: September 17, 2017, 06:13:16 PM »
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  • So the bottom line is:  Columbus was wrong after all?  :furtive:
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    Columbus named his three ships after Our Lady, and without being aware of it the names were a prophesy of the 1531 apparition to Juan Diego, that would become known as La Virgen de Guadalupe, because La Nina means "the girl," La Pinta means "the painting" (or properly something that appears to be painted but is inherently that color and design, like the pinto horse), and La Santa Maria, obviously "The Saint Mary." Our Lady, Santa Maria, would appear as a "girl" (about age 14) in an image that appears to be painted but is not, as if it "grew" that way. 
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    On his 3 ships, the sailors prayed the Rosary nearly constantly, raising flags to indicate the mysteries and prayers they exchanged between ships. It was the first trans-Atlantic voyage that prayed the Rosary all the way. Perhaps this is the reason the other earlier reputed voyages never counted as having been the discovery of America.
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    Of course, the detractors against Columbus would have everyone forget about his prayers and faith and obedience to a Catholic monarch.
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #189 on: September 17, 2017, 07:54:28 PM »
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  • Some hold he was a mystic - he wrote almost prophetically about his future voyages and their purpose (souls for Our Lord).  The style was akin to Isaias' from Scripture, according to William Thomas Walsh.
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #190 on: September 18, 2017, 03:11:35 PM »
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    Columbus named his three ships after Our Lady, and without being aware of it the names were a prophesy of the 1531 apparition to Juan Diego, that would become known as La Virgen de Guadalupe, because La Nina means "the girl," La Pinta means "the painting" (or properly something that appears to be painted but is inherently that color and design, like the pinto horse), and La Santa Maria, obviously "The Saint Mary." Our Lady, Santa Maria, would appear as a "girl" (about age 14) in an image that appears to be painted but is not, as if it "grew" that way.
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    On his 3 ships, the sailors prayed the Rosary nearly constantly, raising flags to indicate the mysteries and prayers they exchanged between ships. It was the first trans-Atlantic voyage that prayed the Rosary all the way. Perhaps this is the reason the other earlier reputed voyages never counted as having been the discovery of America.
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    Of course, the detractors against Columbus would have everyone forget about his prayers and faith and obedience to a Catholic monarch.
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    Never heard that. Now I see why they want to get rid of Columbus Day.
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #191 on: September 18, 2017, 04:03:24 PM »
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  • Well, we need to see some actual primary source evidence that Columbus actually believed that the earth was round. It seems that it was all made up. The default is to presume that he thought like everyone else : that the earth was flat. He simply wanted to find another flat earth route to India.
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #192 on: September 18, 2017, 05:31:02 PM »
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  • Never heard that. Now I see why they want to get rid of Columbus Day.
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    The liberal news media and the Communist grip on teachers' unions and school boards started in 1984 to put into high gear their anti-Columbus propaganda, with the aim of having everyone in Retreat Mode long in advance of 1992.
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    (For over 20 years already, they had been teaching in public schools that Columbus headed a profit-seeking enterprise of enslavement of indigenous peoples under the mere pretense of religious indoctrination because the Catholic Church was a totally corrupt organization bent on profit motives.)
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    Otherwise, from 1492 to 1992 would have been the 500th Anniversary of the Discovery of America, and that celebration had to be shot down proactively.
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    By the time 1992 came around I did not see or hear one hint of commemoration of the Columbus voyage that opened the New World.
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    They were unable to get rid of Columbus Day at the same time, for that agenda item they'd have to wait a few years. But now here we are, just 25 years later, and now that is the hot ticket item sweeping the country, with academia firmly behind it under the guise of environmentalism, anti-discrimination, anti-imperialism, and so-called freedom of religion (otherwise known as indifferentism or universal salvation).
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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #193 on: September 18, 2017, 06:11:49 PM »
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  • "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Catholic intro video to Flat Earth
    « Reply #194 on: September 18, 2017, 09:58:07 PM »
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    Answer:
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    googledocs transcript of the video:
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    50+ Reasons The Earth Is NOT Flat!

    This is a transcript for a video of the same name.  Watch it here (20 minutes):
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          The most popular Flat Earthers' map is an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Map.  The distances on such maps are only correct in relation to the center point.  All other distances are distorted.  An Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Map can be made for any point on Earth including Antarctica.  The Qantas nonstop flight from Sydney to Santiago would not work on a Flat Earth map.  
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          There are a number of permanent research stations in Antarctica and they can all vouch for the fact that Antarctica is only about 11,000 miles in circumference, not 78,000 miles as a Flat Earth map shows.  Antarctica is a continent even though it's landmass is covered with ice.  In the North Pole there are only temporary research stations because there's no land mass and the ice is constantly moving or breaking up.  Fedor Konyukhov circumnavigated Antarctica in 102 days.  If he were doing this on a Flat Earth he would have been traveling at an average of 26.94 knots per hour, which would have smashed the single hulled speed record by seven knots per hour and 101.5 days.  
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          The first overland crossing of Antarctica was completed by Vivian Fuch's team in 1958.  According to Flat Earthers this would be impossible.  There are currently 45 companies that are members of the International Association of Antarctica Tourist Operations, including ships flights and land-based operations.  During the 2007-2008 season there were 46,265 visitors.  None of these companies claim Antarctica is the end of the Earth. Antarctica has a six month day and a six-month night each year as does the North Pole.  This would be impossible on a flat Earth. Many webcams are set up in Antarctica where one can see pictures taken every 15 seconds to an hour and which show the 24-hour day or 24-hour night.  
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          There are three poles in Antarctica, a geographic pole, a magnetic pole and a ceremonial pole.  The fact that lines of longitude converge on the geographic pole proves the Earth is a globe.  Similarly to Antarctica, southern cities of the world have longer days during the December or summer solstice.  Ushuaia, Argentina, 17 hours 19 minutes.  Cape Town, South Africa, 14 hours 25 minutes.  Hobart, Australia, 15 hours 21 minutes.  Invercargill, New Zealand, 15 hours and 48 minutes.  This would be impossible on a flat Earth. 
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