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Offline Meg

Re: Catholic Flatearth Believers
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2019, 06:25:34 PM »
Quote from: Mass12 on October 03, 2019, 07:14:03 AM
After looking into this for a long time it's what I believe.
Is this kind of a dead topic? Anyone????

Well, the problem is twofold, in my opinion. Both sides were at fault for it not being discussed anymore. Those who believe in a flat earth (as I do) tend to be a little too zealous about it, and those on the forum who oppose a flat earth tend to be extremely upset by the idea that a Catholic could ever believe in a flat earth, even though some of the Church Fathers of old believed in a flat earth.

When it was discussed in the past on the forum, it was a very contentious topic, which more often than not became very heated and acrimonious. There were a few on the forum who stove to not allow it to be discussed. For those who are against a flat earth, the idea of believing in a flat earth is the absolute worst thing that a Catholic could ever possibly believe - right up there with Satanism. It's unfortunate that they would not allow it to be discussed; but then, too, there were some who believe in a flat earth who were too dogmatic about it.

So there it is, in my opinion.
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Offline Jaynek

Re: Catholic Flatearth Believers
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2019, 07:01:11 PM »
Quote from: Meg on November 05, 2019, 06:25:34 PM
When it was discussed in the past on the forum, it was a very contentious topic, which more often than not became very heated and acrimonious. There were a few on the forum who stove to not allow it to be discussed. For those who are against a flat earth, the idea of believing in a flat earth is the absolute worst thing that a Catholic could ever possibly believe - right up there with Satanism. It's unfortunate that they would not allow it to be discussed; but then, too, there were some who believe in a flat earth who were too dogmatic about it.

So there it is, in my opinion.
It makes no sense to claim "they would not allow it [flat earth] to be discussed".  Who is this "they"?  The only person on this forum with the authority to allow or not allow the discussion of flat earth is Matthew, the forum owner.  He allowed the topic to be discussed.  Not only did he allow it, he set up a sub-forum for it.  Who are you saying stopped you from discussing it?

Nor does there seem any reason to claim that opponents of flat earth think that "the idea of believing in a flat earth is the absolute worst thing that a Catholic could ever possibly believe - right up there with Satanism."  I do not recall anyone ever saying  or implying that.  It is certainly not my position.  I think it is a serious doctrinal error to claim (as some on this forum have done) that Catholics must believe in flat earth and to do otherwise is heresy.  But belief in a flat earth, in itself, would not even make my top ten list of bad beliefs for Catholics to accept. At worst, it is an error of fact and in no way is it comparable to Satanism which is morally evil.
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Offline Mass12

Re: Catholic Flatearth Believers
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 08:08:08 AM »
Thanks everyone who responded thus far.
I used to think flat earth was crazy too until someone asked me to look into it. I believed all the brainwashing that's out there and that was my automatic default position. 
I have for the longest time believed we are geocentric but it goes further than that. Flat earth goes with this to a whole new level. I'm not claiming to know the exact shape of the plane but all the evidence is their if you look.
They lie to use about history and the world we live in so this is just another one to add.
I'm always open to discussing things like this and it's good to find like minded people looking into the truth of things going on.
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Offline Jaynek

Re: Catholic Flatearth Believers
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 06:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Mass12 on November 06, 2019, 08:08:08 AM
I used to think flat earth was crazy too until someone asked me to look into it. I believed all the brainwashing that's out there and that was my automatic default position.
Do you think that St. Bede and St. Thomas Aquinas taught that the earth is a sphere because they were brainwashed?  Their explanations make sense to me.
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Offline Meg

Re: Catholic Flatearth Believers
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 07:16:00 PM »
Quote from: Mass12 on November 06, 2019, 08:08:08 AM
Thanks everyone who responded thus far.
I used to think flat earth was crazy too until someone asked me to look into it. I believed all the brainwashing that's out there and that was my automatic default position.
I have for the longest time believed we are geocentric but it goes further than that. Flat earth goes with this to a whole new level. I'm not claiming to know the exact shape of the plane but all the evidence is their if you look.
They lie to use about history and the world we live in so this is just another one to add.
I'm always open to discussing things like this and it's good to find like minded people looking into the truth of things going on.

Well said. It would be a good thing if the subject of a flat earth could be discussed in a reasonable manner here, but, unfortunately, there are forum members who (obviously) become quite distressed if anyone even suggests discussing FE. Perhaps they can just be ignored, which will be necessary if the discussion is to continue, since they will try to derail any discussion about FE.

I, too, believed at first in geocentrism. But then I watched a video in which the flat earth was described in a way that made sense. It still makes sense.

Yes, there are so many lies about history, and the shape of the earth. What NASA and the science books teach us is not the reality of God's flat earth. NASA has no religious views, and it does not care about God and his Creation. Far from it. Neither do most of the science books. They care only about humanism.
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