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Offline Ladislaus

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CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
« on: February 11, 2025, 09:49:34 AM »
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  • So, these guys from "Ultima Expeditions" finally got back to me. 

    https://ultima-antarcticexpeditions.com/

    They fly down from South Africa and offer a few different expeditions, with 2 of them being right around what should be longest day of year in Southern Hemisphere, December 20-21.  Unfortunately, the longer trip costs $85,000 ("all inclusive" ... not sure if that also includes airfare to South Africa from wherever).  There's a shorter one (36 hours) for $16,000, which would be affordable, but not sure if you could do what you needed there in 36 hours.  In both cases, you might have to figure out how to make your observations within the context of whatever they have planned.  What's interesting is that the $16,000, 36-hour, trip they bill as "overnight", being not sure what that means since it's supposed to be 24-hour daylight on those dates down there.  Given what's going on in South Africa, just going there as a white man might be more dangerous than the flight and crawling around in ice caves.  Given that these guys can do 36-hours for $16,000, not sure why the "Final Experiement" clowns were trying to charge $35,000 ... (not counting flight from your point of origin, etc.) ... except as a deterrent against too many people being able to go.

    Perhaps if someone wanted to or was able to go down there, we could take up a collection to help fund at least the $16,000 trip.  Of course, that same money could probably build a church for the Nigerian fathers, so there's that too.  I'd probably have a hard time collecting for this when others could use the money more ... but that's just how I am.




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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #1 on: February 11, 2025, 09:59:54 AM »
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  • You could look in Argentina or Chile. It's closer to Antarctica, and they are relatively safe places. Plus, it's probably cheaper to fly there from the USA than to South Africa.


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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #2 on: February 11, 2025, 10:10:02 AM »
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  • You could look in Argentina or Chile. It's closer to Antarctica, and they are relatively safe places. Plus, it's probably cheaper to fly there from the USA than to South Africa.
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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #3 on: February 11, 2025, 10:51:15 AM »
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  • Most of those just take you down there to cruise around the edges, except the Union Glacier one ... and it would probably be better to try something different from the African side.

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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #4 on: February 11, 2025, 11:21:43 AM »
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  • I've recently been thinking about a safari hunt in S. Africa. Impala or possibly hyena hunt. I'd have to get me another rifle not so much for those game but to be able to handle the potential dangers of a charging cape buffalo or bull elephant. I couldn't bring myself to kill any big cats or wild dogs there, and I probably can't bring myself to kill a hyena because I'd have no use for any of its being. I could use the impala hide. In order for me to kill an animal, I must find a use for it or it must be in self-defense or an act of mercy on a terminally ill or injured animal.


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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #5 on: February 11, 2025, 11:34:04 AM »
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  • I've recently been thinking about a safari hunt in S. Africa. Impala or possibly hyena hunt. I'd have to get me another rifle not so much for those game but to be able to handle the potential dangers of a charging cape buffalo or bull elephant. I couldn't bring myself to kill any big cats or wild dogs there, and I probably can't bring myself to kill a hyena because I'd have no use for any of its being. I could use the impala hide. In order for me to kill an animal, I must find a use for it or it must be in self-defense or an act of mercy on a terminally ill or injured animal.

    I'm the same way, so much so that I try to avoid killing even bugs if I don't have to.  Obviously, if I have to I have to for some legitimate reason, but I just can't do it without any justification because it's quicker / easier / more convenient.  So, for instances, these "stink bugs" sometimes get in the house in the late Fall ... causing great fear among the females in my household.  If I am able to get a hold of one, I'll just let it outside, as short of walking to the door vs to flush in the toilet, there's no real difference (still the same challenge to catch the first time around), NOR does one want to just smash those things because, well, the stink ... and also because they'll smear on your wall, etc.  So in either case I have to gently apprehend the culprit, but once apprehended, I might as well just let it back outside to give it another fighting chance.

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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #6 on: February 11, 2025, 11:44:01 AM »
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  • I'm the same way, so much so that I try to avoid killing even bugs if I don't have to.  Obviously, if I have to I have to for some legitimate reason, but I just can't do it without any justification because it's quicker / easier / more convenient.  So, for instances, these "stink bugs" sometimes get in the house in the late Fall ... causing great fear among the females in my household.  If I am able to get a hold of one, I'll just let it outside, as short of walking to the door vs to flush in the toilet, there's no real difference (still the same challenge to catch the first time around), NOR does one want to just smash those things because, well, the stink ... and also because they'll smear on your wall, etc.  So in either case I have to gently apprehend the culprit, but once apprehended, I might as well just let it back outside to give it another fighting chance.
    Same here. I can't kill spiders or wasps no matter how big or mean they look. I capture spiders and release them outside. Sometimes I just leave them alone and let them live in the house, and I rarely ever see them again. The only thing I'll kill are mosquitos and flies. Both are parasites and more likely to cause/spread human disease. Flies are simply nasty. 

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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #7 on: February 11, 2025, 11:51:39 AM »
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  • I've recently been thinking about a safari hunt in S. Africa. Impala or possibly hyena hunt. I'd have to get me another rifle not so much for those game but to be able to handle the potential dangers of a charging cape buffalo or bull elephant. I couldn't bring myself to kill any big cats or wild dogs there, and I probably can't bring myself to kill a hyena because I'd have no use for any of its being. I could use the impala hide. In order for me to kill an animal, I must find a use for it or it must be in self-defense or an act of mercy on a terminally ill or injured animal.

    As we have already drifted from the original topic, how can you travel with your rifle to South Africa? Will the airlines allow a gun on the plane? What abou immigration?


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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #8 on: February 11, 2025, 11:54:45 AM »
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  • Same here. I can't kill spiders or wasps no matter how big or mean they look. I capture spiders and release them outside. Sometimes I just leave them alone and let them live in the house, and I rarely ever see them again. The only thing I'll kill are mosquitos and flies. Both are parasites and more likely to cause/spread human disease. Flies are simply nasty.

    Right, and for flies/mosquitos, they're nearly impossible to just catch anyway, so the only way to deal with them is the old squash.

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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #9 on: February 11, 2025, 12:22:46 PM »
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  • If you raised the money, who would you send?

    Not that any of us have extra funds for that sort of thing. Where are the indepently wealthy honest Catholics? 
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #10 on: February 11, 2025, 12:40:34 PM »
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  • If you raised the money, who would you send?

    Not that any of us have extra funds for that sort of thing. Where are the indepently wealthy honest Catholics?

    Well, it would definitely require volunteers, and I'm guessing no one will want to go.  I'm not sure I'd want to spent Christmas next year away from my family.  But just thinking someone we know and trust here.  That's because one of the biggest issues with the whole TFE has been the dispute over the integrity of Witsit, Jeran, etc.  Even if people think Witsit is generally a sincere guy, he was complaining about money issues before going down and ... does he have a price?  I mean, if you're struggling financially and someone offers you, oh, a million dollars to go down there and play along, it would take a tough customer to turn that down, someone with super high integrity, and of course it's not a serious moral issue for most people.  Perhaps Witsit wouldn't do anything gravely immoral, but to tell a lie and/or come up with a fancy mental reservation ... for a million dollars?  Jeran a lot of people have suspected for a long time now as being a plant.


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    Re: CathInfo Antarctica Expedition?
    « Reply #11 on: February 16, 2025, 07:54:39 AM »
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  • Not sure an Antarctica expedition really proves much. Could be a separate landmass to the ice-ring for all we know.

    Would probably be vastly cheaper and more conclusive to measure travel-times in routes like these below (pic is from an anti-Flat Earth website but I just found it on Google Images).