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Offline noOneImportant

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Re: INFALLIBLE
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2018, 01:59:42 AM »
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  • There's a very simple explanation for the whole "thermometer in the shade vs thermometer in the moonlight" thing. Just go do a quick internet search. 

    Here's a simple experiment: if moonlight is what is cooling the thermometer, why do you observe the exact same effect on a clear night with no moon? Go try it; you'll see the same "cooling" effect in the open air vs beneath a tree or some other "shade" even when there is no moon.

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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #31 on: January 07, 2018, 02:14:12 AM »
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  • There's a very simple explanation for the whole "thermometer in the shade vs thermometer in the moonlight" thing. Just go do a quick internet search.

    Here's a simple experiment: if moonlight is what is cooling the thermometer, why do you observe the exact same effect on a clear night with no moon? Go try it; you'll see the same "cooling" effect in the open air vs beneath a tree or some other "shade" even when there is no moon.
    I will.  However, Moonlight should still be warming and it isn't.  So, it can't be reflected Sunlight.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #32 on: January 07, 2018, 03:13:42 AM »
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  • If the moonlight were the cause of the cooling, then you would not see the same effect when there is no moonlight. But you do see the same effect when there is no moonlight. Ergo, the cooling in the shade must be caused by something other than the moonlight. 

    It's caused by the fact that the earth warms up during the day (because the sun is shining on it), and during the night it cools off. "Cooling off" consists of emitting heat (i.e. the heat leaves the ground and escapes upward into the air). If you are in the "shade" i.e. under a tree or a roof of some kind, that escaping heat is trapped by the cover, and the air stays slightly warmer than it does when there is nothing above you to trap the heat.

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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #33 on: January 07, 2018, 07:44:48 AM »
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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #34 on: January 07, 2018, 07:46:14 AM »
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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #35 on: January 07, 2018, 12:14:47 PM »
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  • If the moonlight were the cause of the cooling, then you would not see the same effect when there is no moonlight. But you do see the same effect when there is no moonlight. Ergo, the cooling in the shade must be caused by something other than the moonlight.

    It's caused by the fact that the earth warms up during the day (because the sun is shining on it), and during the night it cools off. "Cooling off" consists of emitting heat (i.e. the heat leaves the ground and escapes upward into the air). If you are in the "shade" i.e. under a tree or a roof of some kind, that escaping heat is trapped by the cover, and the air stays slightly warmer than it does when there is nothing above you to trap the heat.
    My infared thermometer will be here on Tuesday.  So, I will begin testing that myself.  Of course, Moonlight should still be warming if it is reflected Sunlight and it is not.  No "Earth cooling" can explain that.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #36 on: January 07, 2018, 04:59:11 PM »
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  • Oh, and apparently many amateurs have shown that moonlight is cooling to objects like a glass of water on a table, vs a glass of water on the same table shaded with something like a cloth.  I'm not sure how Global Cooling could cause that.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #37 on: January 09, 2018, 11:02:10 PM »
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  • You are ass-uming that The Moon's light source is reflected light from The Sun.  If however, The Moon were capable of absorbing Sunlight and then glowing at nightime, it would be capable of producing a Full Moon, observable from different angles of view at the same time.  


    "Luminescence is emission of light by a substance not resulting from heat; it is thus a form of cold-body radiation."

    "This distinguishes luminescence from incandescence, which is light emitted by a substance as a result of heating."

    "The dials, hands, scales, and signs of aviation and navigational instruments and markings are often coated with luminescent materials in a process known as "luminising.""

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminescence


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    Are you having fun disagreeing with other flat-earthers?
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    The moon appears as it does, they say, because:
    -- The moon is not spherical, but a flat disc, like a frisbee.
    -- The moon is semi-transparent.
    -- The moon has clouds behind it.
    -- The moon never sets below the horizon.
    -- The moon is self-luminescent.
    -- The moon glows in the dark.
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    All of which are false claims, easily disproved, and smokescreens to hide the truth.
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    Plus, they're self-contradictory, unverifiable, and based on fantasy.
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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #38 on: January 10, 2018, 11:19:47 AM »
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  • .
    Are you having fun disagreeing with other flat-earthers?
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    The moon appears as it does, they say, because:
    -- The moon is not spherical, but a flat disc, like a frisbee.
    -- The moon is semi-transparent.
    -- The moon has clouds behind it.
    -- The moon never sets below the horizon.
    -- The moon is self-luminescent.
    -- The moon glows in the dark.
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    All of which are false claims, easily disproved, and smokescreens to hide the truth.
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    Plus, they're self-contradictory, unverifiable, and based on fantasy.
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    You can't hide the truth when the clouds are behind the moon because the moon is semi-transparent. :laugh1: You might try getting your NASA coworkers to cover up the moon using a tarp. Just keep fooling yourself Neil Obstat.

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    Re: INFALLIBLE
    « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2018, 03:36:34 PM »
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  • I tested the temps last night, but didn't have a lot of moonlight (too much cloud cover).  There's some variation in temps around the yard.  The garage roof was cooler, than the ground, by about 6 degrees F.  Presumably, because it lacks cover from the wind. 

    In my experience though, Moonlight doesn't seem to warm anything and I've seen The Moon plenty of times during the day, but I've never seen it glow in the light, only in the dark.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."