"Yet I have seen this centre from above, and as it were from a bird's eye view.  In that way a person sees far more clearly than on a map all the different countries, mountains, seas, rivers, towns, and even the smallest places, whether distant or near at hand."

Unless by center is meant the center of the land mass, in which case, if you take into account the large amounts of Ocean (Pacific), then the center of the land mass could very conceivably be near Jerusalem.

Great post.  Anne Catherine has weighed in on flat earth a lot.  

I can hear the globalists now, "that's only private revelation"!   

Seems worldly revelations, no matter how sketchy, outweigh the spiritual ones for the multitudes, and how few there are who consider the spiritual, let alone permit them to take precedence.     

1 Cor 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Great post.  Anne Catherine has weighed in on flat earth a lot.  

I can hear the globalists now, "that's only private revelation"!  

You mean like you did in response to Maria of Agreda's revelation that the earth is a sphere?

I look forward to the globalists' explanation for the obvious contradiction between Agreda and Bl. Emmerich, if they hold that Agreda's globe referred only to earth, as they've previously stated.

Seems to me they are boxed in.

So you’ve just admitted that all of the flat Earth models which place the arctic and the North Pole at the centre of the Earth, which is ALL of them, are wrong.

Well done. Now please explain the path of the Sun, compasses, the Pole Star, and 24 hour daylight at the North Pole without reference to any of the flat Earth explanations which assume the centre of the Earth is the Arctic, in particular, explain them with Jerusalem at the centre of a flat plane. Good luck!



( once again a flatter fails to first examine the internal consistency of his various assertion or the logical implications of adding a new one to them)

Why haven’t you provided an answer yet?

Mary of Agreda explicitly stated she saw a spherical earth.  Bl. Anne Catherine said something that some people claim implies the earth is flat.  It is simple enough to reconcile the visions by saying that those who read a flat earth into the Emmerich words are mistaken in their inferences.

As usual, people take stuff out of context and make declarations about what they do not know.  Its highly unlikely Mary of Agreda saw terra firma as a sphere, but more likely, the entirety of creation, perhaps calling it "the world".  She describes it just as it is described everywhere: as an expansive plane, setting between heaven, above, and hell below. Our Lady reveals what she was shown by God regarding the firmament and the earth, which sounds like all the other flat earth commentary seen in the Scriptures, Fathers, Cosmas, Enoch, Anne Catherine Emmerich, etc.  The glaring problem for globalists is the firmament, the airy tent with its hard dome on the top, above which heaven sits, and below it is where the lower waters gather. And of course, below that is hell.  Mary of Agreda's descriptions below are not compatible with a globe. 
She (Our Lady) perceived and understood, how the Lord in the beginning (Gen. 1; 1, 5), created heaven and earth; in how far and in what way it was void, and how the darkness was over the face of the abyss; how the spirit of the Lord hovered over the waters and how, at the divine command, light was made, and what was its nature; how, after the darkness was divided, it was called night and the light day, and how thus the first day was made. She knew the size of the earth, its longitude, latitude and depth, its caverns, hell, limbo and purgatory with their inhabitants; the countries, climes, the meridians and divisions of the world, and all its inhabitants and occupants.


 29. More and more the Queen of heaven reflected his infinite attributes and virtues; more and more brilliantly shone forth her beauty under the touch of the pencil of the divine Wisdom and under the colors and lights added to it from on high. On this day She was informed of the works of creation as they happened on the third day. She learned when and how the waters, which were beneath the firmament, flowed together in one place (Gen. 1, 9), disclosing the dry land, which the Lord called earth, while He called the waters the sea.

 41. In conjunction therewith the Lord showed Her also the works of creation performed on the fourth day (Gen. I, 14–17). The heavenly Princess Mary learned how and when the luminaries of heaven were formed in the firmament for dividing day and night and for indicating the seasons, the days and the years; how for this purpose was created the great light of heaven, the sun, presiding as the lord of the day, and joined with it, the moon, the lesser light, which reigns over the darkness of the night.

 56. During this vision were also revealed to this great Queen the works of the fifth day of the creation in the manner in which they happened; She saw how, by the force of the divine command, were engendered and produced in the waters beneath the firmament, the imperfect reptiles, which creep upon the earth, the winged animals that course through the air, and the finny tribes that glide through the watery regions.

She (Our Lady) learnt how and when God divided the waters (Gen. 1, 6), some above and others below, establishing the firmament, and above it the crystal, known also as the watery heaven.