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Offline Tradman

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2023, 11:20:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 24, 2023, 11:13:05 AM
    Yeah, but you don't have to reveal that you're a priest while signing up for an account here.  There are some priests lurking and posting here that haven't revealed themselves.

    Yea, whether he's a priest or not, he may not be ready to jump in because he went in the way he did. The letter suggests he spoke with Matthew before, because he clarifies things he said.  Idk.
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #151 on: September 25, 2023, 06:14:57 PM »
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    • First of all, I've been meaning to say --

    I am a LITTLE BIT annoyed with people who refuse to sign up for a CI account, even though they are VERY MUCH WANTING TO PARTICIPATE, i.e., contribute to the forum. Sometimes I'll make an exception for someone, if he has really good curated news (a.k.a. doesn't send me "crap").

    Still, I wish people would just sign up for a FREE account already, rather than have me post all your stuff. I really am very busy.

    But when forced to, it's difficult to leave good content on the table, which would make CathInfo that much better. I know CathInfo has plenty of content, and I don't need to "seed" the forum anymore with content/posts -- but A) I'm thorough, B) I'm dedicated and C) old habits die hard.

    With that having been said --

    This particular man wrote to me once before, and I don't even have his e-mail address. So I can't even write back to him. All the communication is one-way. Here is what he wrote yesterday:


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    A clarification for Ladislaus regarding my previous message about FE as a conclusion:

    With the cardinal directions being represented by the extremities of the earth I meant that each of the four walls of the world between the four corners represents one of the four cardinal directions; to the east of Siberia, Japan, China etc. there is East-Eden and the eastern wall of the world, to the south of Antarctica there is South-Eden and the southern wall (perhaps Antarctica is part of South-Eden?), to the west of America there is West-Eden and the western wall and to the north of Russia etc. is North-Eden and the northern wall.

    There is an FE video on YT from 2018 "The Bering Strait Explained" by "One Conscience", and someone ("jokai2553") made the following comment:

    "This is absolutely correct. It seems that beyond the East of Russia is where the Eastern edge of the world lays. And beyond the West of Alaska is where the Western edge of the world lays. But the FE movement has already been co-opted by the Azimuthal Equidistant map. Which portrays the world as one continuous loop. It is absolutely impossible to cross over the Bering Strait."

    I do not endorse the channel, but they also believed that the world powers are lying about the East and the West.

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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #152 on: September 26, 2023, 11:39:29 AM »
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    • Right, instead of sending messages for you to post, he could easily sign up for a free and anonymous account.  And he could even use a VPN to disguise his IP address if he were that concerned.  I'll have a look at his Bering Strait video when I have some time.  I'm willing to look at anything with an open mind, but, no, I don't just blindly accept things without some evidence for them.
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #153 on: September 26, 2023, 11:43:44 AM »
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    • Here's the video ...

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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #154 on: September 26, 2023, 11:48:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 26, 2023, 11:43:44 AM
    Here's the video ...

    She never demonstrates her claim that there's a 4.5 hour difference between when "daylight" hits the two islands.  It's like she's assuming that sunrise is at 5:30 AM in both places in relation to their respective timezones.  This is incredibly weak.

    You can Google search "Big Diomede Island sunrise time" and "Little Diomede Island sunrise time" ... and you get a 4-hour difference, with sunrise on 9/27 at 5:11 AM on Big Diomede and at 9:11 AM on Little Diomede, so 4 hours apart.  Unless one could show up there and prove otherwise, that debunks this entire video.

    This is so bad that I have to wonder if this isn't disinfo to make FE look bad.
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #155 on: September 26, 2023, 01:10:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 26, 2023, 11:43:44 AM
    Here's the video ...



    Yea, this video doesn't do anything for her claim.  I can see how Google might not want to cooperate if it were true that Russia is east, America west and never the twain can meet.  I glanced at time and date, but didn't find the place where you can get a clear view of times/date there, but I didn't try everything. In the meantime, I tried to book a flight from Alaska to Russia and you can't.  Certainly not across the Bering Strait. At least from the ones I tried.  It's an interesting cutoff point on maps that nobody really talks about. If you ask Google, they make three claims.  That soon they will start allowing it. Other articles claim people have been doing it for 7 years. A third article says you can walk across when the ice gets really substantial.  All three sound hallow. Wouldn't there be a huge Russian presence, (military bases, air bases, barracks, planes, hangers, checkpoints, etc) to keep the US from poking around and vise versa? The distance supposedly isn't far, yet they say it costs $1050 to waltz on over.  Just can't find the flight. 
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #156 on: September 26, 2023, 01:48:55 PM »
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    • How is all this consistent with Russian colonization of Alaska?

    Russian colonization of North America - Wikipedia
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #157 on: September 26, 2023, 02:13:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: poenitens on September 26, 2023, 01:48:55 PM
    How is all this consistent with Russian colonization of Alaska?

    Russian colonization of North America - Wikipedia

    They claim a pretty detailed history of a traversing between the two continents, back in the 1600 and 1700's, yet, even then, there's no evidence of colonization according to Wiki.  Why?  And where is the presence/activity now?  Two of the greatest continents in the world are said to be 55 miles apart at that point but the islands between the two are empty? Where are the bases? Wouldn't all of that territory be in need of protection?  They've militarized Antarctica, but not there? And what about the time zone thing?  I still can't find anything.  As far as going there, Google has to be lying. They claim you can fly to Russia across the Bering Strait if you make plans and get permission. I don't know about that. Just try to get a flight.  I still don't find one.  I'd be interested to know if there's an actual flight between Alaska and Russia at all; and where does it track?  
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    Re: Biblical Flat Earth
    « Reply #158 on: September 26, 2023, 09:04:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on September 26, 2023, 02:13:10 PM
    there's no evidence of colonization according to Wiki.  Why?  And where is the presence/activity now? 
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/alaska-russian-heritage-smithsonian-journeys-travel-quarterly-180959449/

    I'm not convinced of FE, but I'm open to it. Just trying to play the devil's advocate here.

    It could simply be that the "discontinuity" is not across the Bering strait.
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