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Title: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Matthew on April 15, 2025, 04:37:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHow1c2KKY
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 15, 2025, 04:54:29 PM
:laugh1:  That door looked so light and flimsy...could've been made out of 1/4" plywood.  How'd that survive a space flight??  This stuff is so comical.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 15, 2025, 05:07:57 PM
Even one of the Infowars reporters called this out.

... bit of crude language
https://x.com/i/status/1912179100141130199

Bozos continuing to make a fool of himself.

That's to say nothing of how ridiculously fake the footage of this thing "taking off" looks, where it doesn't even look like natural physics.  Video games physics has gotten more advanced that this junk.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on April 15, 2025, 06:29:30 PM
I like how the space capsule opens with a tire iron. 
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Matthew on April 15, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Yeah, I don't care how popular it is, or how it makes me look.

I HAVE to respect the brain God gave me, and His reality. I have no choice.

Put me down for NOT believing in this space travel nonsense.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Giovanni Berto on April 15, 2025, 07:19:24 PM
:laugh1: It looks like a cheap B movie.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 15, 2025, 07:39:10 PM

Definitely looks fake, but can anyone explain how this video below is faked? It look very real to me. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: SimpleMan on April 15, 2025, 08:48:58 PM
Definitely looks fake, but can anyone explain how this video below is faked? It look very real to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4

Good question.  I'd be interested in hearing explanations of how this is all faked.

And it may be tasteless to bring this up, but Sunita Williams is somewhat more attractive in this video, than in other pictures and videos we've seen.  
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 15, 2025, 09:36:09 PM
Good question.  I'd be interested in hearing explanations of how this is all faked.

This has been dealt with myriad times.  There are dozens of different techniques that could be used to fake this, and NASA doens't even use the best ones available, as they're frequently caught in various "glitches" where their tech fails.  NASA does have the so-called "vomit comet", as plane that dives to simulate low G.  I knew some people at NASA Glenn who rode on it a few times.  In addition, did you know they have the largest green screen in the world at one of their US centers?  Wonder why.  They also have contracts with various CGI companies.  In many of their videos you can see harnesses where the algorithm to eliminate them glitches or fails.  Occasionally they'll drop something and it'll fall to the ground like a brick (meaning there's gravity there).  It's not uncommon for the astronots to "phase out" while the background remains.  NASA gets about 25-30 billion dollars per year of tax funding, so, if a movie studio can do it, so can they.  In fact, they have contracts with various special effects companies that also have movies studios for their client, and they actually have kept the terms of those contracts "secret".  One could go on for hours, and there are many videos out there exposing their nonsense.

"Space walks" are conducted in the pool at Johnson Space Center in which is immersed a full-scale copy (allegedly) of ISS, and in quite a few of their "space walk" videos, you can see bubbles floating out through space (another glitch in the algorithm to blot those out), and an occasional reflection of somebody wearing scuba gear in the visor of an astronaut being filmed.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 15, 2025, 09:40:38 PM
here are some ...

https://rumble.com/v594gn1-nasa-fails-again-and-again-space-is-fake-glitch-on-the-iss-by-odd-tv.html
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 15, 2025, 10:03:00 PM
This has been dealt with myriad times.  There are dozens of different techniques that could be used to fake this, and NASA doens't even use the best ones available, as they're frequently caught in various "glitches" where their tech fails.  NASA does have the so-called "vomit comet", as plane that dives to simulate low G.  I knew some people at NASA Glenn who rode on it a few times.  In addition, did you know they have the largest green screen in the world at one of their US centers?  Wonder why.  They also have contracts with various CGI companies.  In many of their videos you can see harnesses where the algorithm to eliminate them glitches or fails.  Occasionally they'll drop something and it'll fall to the ground like a brick (meaning there's gravity there).  It's not uncommon for the astronots to "phase out" while the background remains.  NASA gets about 25-30 billion dollars per year of tax funding, so, if a movie studio can do it, so can they.  In fact, they have contracts with various special effects companies that also have movies studios for their client, and they actually have kept the terms of those contracts "secret".  One could go on for hours, and there are many videos out there exposing their nonsense.

"Space walks" are conducted in the pool at Johnson Space Center in which is immersed a full-scale copy (allegedly) of ISS, and in quite a few of their "space walk" videos, you can see bubbles floating out through space (another glitch in the algorithm to blot those out), and an occasional reflection of somebody wearing scuba gear in the visor of an astronaut being filmed.

Sorry, but those answers don’t cut it for me. The only way to fake it is to have an anti gravity chamber on Earth, which I don’t think is possible. Did you actually watch the video? 
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 16, 2025, 12:23:25 PM
Definitely looks fake, but can anyone explain how this video below is faked? It look very real to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4

I’ve watched this video several times concentrating on the water and toothbrush portion. I’ve also noticed how her hair looked and “floated” about and how even her gold chain floated. I’m 100% convinced that it is a genuine video of people living in a man made satellite that orbits the Earth. Ergo, if this is a genuine video of someone in space, the Earth is actually a globe. There are no two ways about it. 
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 16, 2025, 12:26:11 PM

Quote
I’m 100% convinced that it is a genuine video of people living in a man made satellite that orbits the Earth.
You're convinced based on ONE video?  That's all it takes?  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 16, 2025, 01:24:07 PM
You're convinced based on ONE video?  That's all it takes?  :laugh1:

Dude, did you watch the video? If so, please explain how it can possibly be fake. There is no question in my mind that the video was real. The only thing I can think of for the highly unlikely chance of it to be fraudulent, is that there is some unknown technology that can simulate anti gravity and the space station is actually on earth. This I am close to 99% sure of not being true because I don’t believe we have that technology. So I take back the 100% and make it 99. What say you?

BTW: if it’s not too difficult for you, can you use the “quote” button in the upper right of the post so people know who you are quoting? 
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 03:06:43 PM
Sorry, but those answers don’t cut it for me. The only way to fake it is to have an anti gravity chamber on Earth, which I don’t think is possible. Did you actually watch the video?

Are you really this dense?  it doesn't cut if for you because you're brainwashed.

I know people who rode on the so-called vomit-comet, and you can do all that.  You can find videos of them doing the same stuff that you see in IIS videos.  Do you even know what an "anti-gravity" chamber is?  On earth it's simulated either by a diving plane (like NASA's vomit comet) or from drop dowers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4tZoZf2o0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsFMwg9yjWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5UDtRmbEA

No, Bolt was not on IIS nor were the "astronots".  They were exactly where they usually are when filming "ISS scenes".

Have you never seen Hollywood movies about space?  So those are done in an anti-gravity chamber?  Those are done with a combination of harnesses, green screens, and a number of other techniques, including more and more just straight-out CGI (which is becoming impossible to distinguish from reality).

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJDqCZTJUrgopMDLKjLctMA4XEmTC1vcE0Ag&s)

[warning:  some immodesty]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBUV0Wfm5qA

Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 03:09:24 PM
Dude, ...

Dude ... are you this clueless?  It was already explained to you multiple times how it was faked.

There's footage in IIS where it glitches and you can SEE the harnesses, or you can see the effects of harnesses where they're tugging up on their clothing in ways that only a harness could cause, or they fade out, or you have some astronots thinking they have something in their hands (usuing VR glasses) but then there's nothing there on camera due to a glitch in the tech.  They're regularly CAUGHT employing these special effects.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 03:23:22 PM
Even Airbus made a "Zero-G" plane ...
(https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2007/11/zero-g_airbus_a300_for_parabolic_flights/9988895-2-eng-GB/Zero-G_Airbus_A300_for_parabolic_flights_pillars.jpg)
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 03:24:06 PM
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zy3adq3fsQD6cn44KG54qQ.jpg)

(https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66ba4df8caa0bf31f1be9e30/67e1c9ee50228166630ea4eb_Public%20Flights%20Hero%20copy.webp)
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Clare67 on April 16, 2025, 03:57:40 PM
Man, that looks like a lot of fun!  I don't care if it is fakery.  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 04:10:57 PM
Man, that looks like a lot of fun!  I don't care if it is fakery.  :laugh1:

You can actually book a trip for $8900 + tax for a ride, if that's what you want.

Apparently you have to take some meds to prevent throwing up, and some people don't make it even then.

https://www.gozerog.com/public-flights
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 16, 2025, 04:12:17 PM
Part of me can't wait for the elites to unveil the "alien visitors" psyop, because I want to experience the circus-hollywood story which *should* be better than the X-files tv show they put out. 

But then I remember than most people believed in covid, so that means the coming-alien-propaganda will have "low production value" and be as entertaining as a "sci-fi channel" tv show.  They won't need to spend a lot of $ to fool the masses, so any future alien story will be probably be less believable than some 1950s sci-fi, b-movie.

What a shame.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 04:22:44 PM
Here's a video this group did using one of these plantes ...
https://www.npr.org/2016/02/11/466443587/ok-gos-new-video-is-as-incredible-as-youd-expect

Normally you can achieve about 30 seconds of weightlessness in one stretch, and then young 20 with double normal gravity, back and forth.

But with some clever choreography or even just simple editing, you can do longer stretches.  I defy anyone in that longer video above to show where either the edits were or else where they were in high gravity.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 04:38:13 PM
Part of me can't wait for the elites to unveil the "alien visitors" psyop, because I want to experience the circus-hollywood story which *should* be better than the X-files tv show they put out. 

But then I remember than most people believed in covid, so that means the coming-alien-propaganda will have "low production value" and be as entertaining as a "sci-fi channel" tv show.  They won't need to spend a lot of $ to fool the masses, so any future alien story will be probably be less believable than some 1950s sci-fi, b-movie.

What a shame.

Yes, the seem to be ramping up to it.  In the 1950s and 1960s and even through to about the year 2000, you were consider a nutjob if you said you beleived in UFOs.  Even in 2007 the Presdential Candidate Denis Kucinich was ridiculed for saying he had seen a UFO.  Now it's mainstream, due to the programming, starting with the Jesuit-educated Von Daniken and his "Chariots of the Gods" and continuing with "Ancient Aliens".

But, yeah, in one sense I think they just stopped even trying too hard.  We're getting to the point that tech will be indistinguishable from reality, but sometimes they don't event try, almost on purpose, knowing that the small percentage that won't be fooled will not be fooled even by perfect tech, whereas the remainder will be taken in even if it's a lame half-assed job with obvious fails in it.  It's almost an experiment.  Just like when Musk said about the "Tesla in space" (glitches show it was still in the hangar) that "it looked so fake it has to be real ... we have better CGI than that".

If they can do this, they can fool 95% of the population.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ofYZ7slpiU
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 16, 2025, 05:16:24 PM
Yes, it's sad.  I think the truism is that american society peaked around 2000, and now we're living in the days of decline (in many areas).
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 16, 2025, 07:18:48 PM
Are you really this dense?  it doesn't cut if for you because you're brainwashed.

I know people who rode on the so-called vomit-comet, and you can do all that.  You can find videos of them doing the same stuff that you see in IIS videos.  Do you even know what an "anti-gravity" chamber is?  On earth it's simulated either by a diving plane (like NASA's vomit comet) or from drop dowers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4tZoZf2o0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsFMwg9yjWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5UDtRmbEA

No, Bolt was not on IIS nor were the "astronots".  They were exactly where they usually are when filming "ISS scenes".

Have you never seen Hollywood movies about space?  So those are done in an anti-gravity chamber?  Those are done with a combination of harnesses, green screens, and a number of other techniques, including more and more just straight-out CGI (which is becoming impossible to distinguish from reality).

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJDqCZTJUrgopMDLKjLctMA4XEmTC1vcE0Ag&s)

[warning:  some immodesty]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBUV0Wfm5qA

You’re not that gullible are you? I posted 20 minutes of unchoreographed weightless movement which is obvious to any intelligent person that it’s not CGI nor a “vomit comet”. Your confirmation bias is showing big time. Your desperation to confirm your flat earth stupidity is extremely revealing. :facepalm::jester:
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Clare67 on April 16, 2025, 07:54:46 PM
You can actually book a trip for $8900 + tax for a ride, if that's what you want.

Apparently you have to take some meds to prevent throwing up, and some people don't make it even then.

https://www.gozerog.com/public-flights
$8900!! That is ridiculous!  Good grief!  
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 09:00:54 PM
You’re not that gullible are you? I posted 20 minutes of unchoreographed weightless movement which is obvious to any intelligent person that it’s not CGI nor a “vomit comet”. Your confirmation bias is showing big time. Your desperation to confirm your flat earth stupidity is extremely revealing. :facepalm::jester:

You're a complete and total moron, aren't you?  You first claimed it couldn't be done without some "gravity chamber".  How do you know it's unchoreographed, bozo?  They've been repeatedly caught in glitches where they drop things and they fall straight down (when they're in a down cycle).  In other videos, they've been caught wearing harnesses.  Often the astronots glitch out and phase in and out, while the brackground is fine.

You're the baboon with confirmation bias making gratuitous assertions, admitting it already by using terms like "flat earth stupidity".  While you make gratuitous assertions, there are compilations of video out there PROVING the existence of harnesses, of space "bubbles", of VR, phasing in and out, of objects passing through one another, of people phasing in and out, of suddenly reappearances of gravity (either an astronot suddenly falling or an item being dropped and clanging down to the floor), video of an astonot thinking he's moving some virtual object around (clearly using VR contacts) but the object is not there in the shot.

That's actual evidence, where as you just bluster like a moron with your gratuitious assertions and denials.  You started by idiotically claiming it can't be done without gravity chambers.  Video evidence is presented of very similar performances of anti-gravity, from Bolt to the one performance group, and then various harness techniques combined with green screen done by movie studios ... pretending as if you've never seen a movie that simulates anti-gravity effects.  Heck the stupid old Kung Fu movies of the 1970s already had crude anti-gravity effects in them, and somehow modern technology cannot simultate that.

You've complete embarrassed yourself and shown that you're the moron with conformation bias.  You just bloviate that "any intelligent person [can tell] it's not CGI or a [parabolic] flight] ... or I guess harnesses or anything else that can EASILY replicate what's in the video.

Instread of addressing the evidence and someone objectively seeking through would do you restort to emoticons and gratuitous denials, simply repeating your claims without proof.

Nor does this have anything per se to do with "flat earth", but an idiot like yourself can't distinguish between the two.
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2025, 09:08:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdzVqiivUbo
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: OABrownson1876 on April 16, 2025, 10:44:11 PM
And here is my Substack article on the fifteen reasons why the Blue Origin patch is clearly Luciferian: 

https://bryanshepherd.substack.com/p/satanism-blue-origin-style?utm_source=substack&utm_content=feed%3Arecommended%3Acopy_link

Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: AMDG forever on April 17, 2025, 06:09:57 AM
You're a complete and total moron, aren't you?  You first claimed it couldn't be done without some "gravity chamber".  How do you know it's unchoreographed, bozo?  They've been repeatedly caught in glitches where they drop things and they fall straight down (when they're in a down cycle).  In other videos, they've been caught wearing harnesses.  Often the astronots glitch out and phase in and out, while the brackground is fine.

You're the baboon with confirmation bias making gratuitous assertions, admitting it already by using terms like "flat earth stupidity".  While you make gratuitous assertions, there are compilations of video out there PROVING the existence of harnesses, of space "bubbles", of VR, phasing in and out, of objects passing through one another, of people phasing in and out, of suddenly reappearances of gravity (either an astronot suddenly falling or an item being dropped and clanging down to the floor), video of an astonot thinking he's moving some virtual object around (clearly using VR contacts) but the object is not there in the shot.

That's actual evidence, where as you just bluster like a moron with your gratuitious assertions and denials.  You started by idiotically claiming it can't be done without gravity chambers.  Video evidence is presented of very similar performances of anti-gravity, from Bolt to the one performance group, and then various harness techniques combined with green screen done by movie studios ... pretending as if you've never seen a movie that simulates anti-gravity effects.  Heck the stupid old Kung Fu movies of the 1970s already had crude anti-gravity effects in them, and somehow modern technology cannot simultate that.

You've complete embarrassed yourself and shown that you're the moron with conformation bias.  You just bloviate that "any intelligent person [can tell] it's not CGI or a [parabolic] flight] ... or I guess harnesses or anything else that can EASILY replicate what's in the video.

Instread of addressing the evidence and someone objectively seeking through would do you restort to emoticons and gratuitous denials, simply repeating your claims without proof.

Nor does this have anything per se to do with "flat earth", but an idiot like yourself can't distinguish between the two.

Typical liberal! Project much, you Obnoxious and egotistical blowhard? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: VerdenFell on April 17, 2025, 06:55:11 AM
I would consider myself an expert on everything related to film cameras so when I learned that
the Apollo astronauts used a modified version of the same Hasselblad medium format camera
I owned that alone was enough to make me doubt the moon landing. 
Those cameras are completely manual, meaning you have to set the correct film speed, shutter speed and aperture combination as well as focus it correctly for a proper exposure. This is all done on individual rings on the Zeiss lens. The astronauts did not have the benefit of a built in or external light meter to properly gauge the correct settings, in what would be an extremely challenging landscape of extreme contrasts. 
That Hasselblad also didn't even have a viewfinder! The bulky camera was mounted to the chest of their spacesuit. 
This means they had no way to focus on the subject or even know what was within the camera frame. 
But lets say they had the technical know how of an Henri Cartier Bresson or Ansel Adams, they still had to manipulate
the camera lens with those huge gloves, then there was the tricky matter of changing out the detachable film back. 
The most ridiculous thing though is that there has never been a film emulsion created that could withstand the temperatures on the moon, -250 to +250 degrees! The film didn't melt it would have been fogged beyond recognition 
by the radiation. Back in the day I had numerous film rolls ruined by the mild by comparison airport x ray machines.
I've looked at the unedited photos from the Apollo mission and it's miraculous the percentage of photos that are in focus and properly exposed. There have been scores of professional photographers who have thought the same thing.

 
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Seraphina on April 17, 2025, 10:21:11 AM
https://youtu.be/O6H16mZ0rqE?si=08Rw49NL9gnzmeF_

👽 🚀  

Star Trek is more realistic than either of these!
Title: Re: Bezos caught faking space travel
Post by: Cera on April 17, 2025, 03:45:00 PM
Yes, it's sad.  I think the truism is that american society peaked around 2000, and now we're living in the days of decline (in many areas).
Those of us old enough to remember the 50's saw the decline begin in the 60s.