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Balloon footage - it's flat
« on: March 01, 2025, 10:16:17 AM »
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #1 on: March 01, 2025, 10:27:38 AM »
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  • Quote from the second video from Edwin Hubble (who the Hubble Telescope was named after) --

    "...is intolerable... and to escape the horror of a unique position..."

    Here is the fuller quote:
    "But the unwelcome supposition of a favoured location must be avoided at all costs… Such a favoured position, of course, is intolerable… Therefore, in order to restore homogeneity, and to escape the horror of a unique position..."

    Stop. Think about that. Let that sink in.

    Hubble is freaking out because the scientific evidence suggests we are NOT in a random location in "space", but in a unique position, like were were created on purpose. He is WILLFULLY CHOOSING to exclude this scientific evidence ON PHILOSOPHICAL GROUNDS because he doesn't like the conclusion it demands. He is not invincibly ignorant, but WILLFULLY ignoring the truth. Willfully fleeing from the conclusion that God created the realm we live in.

    Horror? Yes, I understand why he would think that. All who flee from God will experience horror on their deathbed, and especially at the Particular Judgment before God. All who live ungodly lives recoil in horror at the thought of having to render an account to God of their lives.

    "It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #2 on: March 01, 2025, 10:42:19 AM »
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  • "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2025, 08:33:47 PM »
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  • What I don't understand is why those in-the-know lie about the earth being a sphere if it isn't? If the earth is flat, then why not just say so? I understand why people would lie about things like the h0Ɩ0h0αx and the moon landing but who benefits about lying about the shape of the earth?

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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2025, 08:52:49 PM »
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  • What I don't understand is why those in-the-know lie about the earth being a sphere if it isn't? If the earth is flat, then why not just say so? I understand why people would lie about things like the h0Ɩ0h0αx and the moon landing but who benefits about lying about the shape of the earth?

    So, the answer is very simple.  Just think about it a bit.  If people knew the earth is flat, an enclosed system with a firmament, Intelligent Design would be impossible to reject.  Now, the evolutionary system requires planets turning into balls.  Why?  Because if you have a Big Bang explosion and claim that gravity congealed things into stars and planet, they must necessarily from into these balls.  Evolution is dead if the earth is flat.  Several prominent Flat Earthers were in fact atheists or agnostics before they become convinced of FE but then came to believe in God.  Millions of souls could be saved by revealing FE, and the controllers above all want to destroy souls.

    Finally, I believe that the end times deception will present Anti-Christ as an alien, and an alien invasion will be used to trick and control mankind ... as von Braun himself warned was going to happen.  But, if the earth is flat, a closed system with a firmament, then there's no such thing as "aliens" and that entire agenda would be upended.


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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #5 on: March 01, 2025, 10:50:07 PM »
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  • Yes.  Evolution, Atheism and Aliens.  All destroyed by FE.

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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #6 on: March 02, 2025, 11:31:42 PM »
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  • So, the answer is very simple.  Just think about it a bit.  If people knew the earth is flat, an enclosed system with a firmament, Intelligent Design would be impossible to reject.  Now, the evolutionary system requires planets turning into balls.  Why?  Because if you have a Big Bang explosion and claim that gravity congealed things into stars and planet, they must necessarily from into these balls.  Evolution is dead if the earth is flat.
    Thanks for this explanation. Do you believe that Charles Darwin's work was an anti-theist ploy to attempt to destroy Christianity? I'm just not sure why so many scientists, both Catholic and secular, adhere to Darwinian Evolution. Are they insincere or merely in error due to ignorance? Are you a young-earth creationist?

    In the Catholic high school I attended, we were taught that Darwinian Evolution is compatible with Christianity. There have been Catholics who believe in "Theistic Evolution" as opposed to "Intelligent Design." I know people have debated these issues before but I remember a 1966 episode of Bishop Sheen's show (it was in color and lasted only one year unlike his previous Life Is Worth Living series which was in black and white) where he says "I believe in Evolution." I don't see a problem with Theistic Evolution from a Catholic viewpoint. If anyone disagrees, why?

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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #7 on: March 02, 2025, 11:37:57 PM »
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  • In the Catholic high school I attended, we were taught that Darwinian Evolution is compatible with Christianity. There have been Catholics who believe in "Theistic Evolution" as opposed to "Intelligent Design." I know people have debated these issues before but I remember a 1966 episode of Bishop Sheen's show (it was in color and lasted only one year unlike his previous Life Is Worth Living series which was in black and white) where he says "I believe in Evolution." I don't see a problem with Theistic Evolution from a Catholic viewpoint. If anyone disagrees, why?

    In the 1950's Catholics freaked out because they believed the BLUFF that evolutionists had all this "evidence" for evolution, millions of years, etc.

    Turns out it was all 100% BS. It was lies. Bold, gutsy lies -- but lies nevertheless.

    With the passage of time, and scientific advances (e.g. DNA) we now know for a fact it is IMPOSSIBLE for random processes to design anything or add more information to a genome, much less create an information language in the first place. Only a Designer can do that.

    Darwin himself said that evidence of "transitional fossils" would come in time. Too bad we're still waiting after all these decades.

    Anyone believing in evolution today is a fool and/or ignorant of science. And mathematics.
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #8 on: March 02, 2025, 11:39:53 PM »
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  • Got 9 minutes? You need to watch this if you haven't yet. Then get back to me.

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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2025, 12:00:24 AM »
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  • Got 9 minutes? You need to watch this if you haven't yet. Then get back to me.
    Thanks for the recommendation. I totally agree with everything that was stated in that video. However, I still don't understand why some Catholic scientists adhere to "Theistic Evolution." Is it due to sheer ignorance or is it due to mere dishonesty? I also don't understand Darwin's motive. Was he just merely ignorant or was he on a personal quest to attempt to destroy theism altogether?

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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #10 on: March 03, 2025, 04:29:45 AM »
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  • Thanks for the recommendation. I totally agree with everything that was stated in that video. However, I still don't understand why some Catholic scientists adhere to "Theistic Evolution." Is it due to sheer ignorance or is it due to mere dishonesty? I also don't understand Darwin's motive. Was he just merely ignorant or was he on a personal quest to attempt to destroy theism altogether?
    On the adherence to theistic evolution, I would wager they are attempting to fence sit between holding to Genesis and the fact that any anti-evolution scientist is made a pariah in the modern age. A.N. Field's The Evolution Hoax Exposed provides into the aforementioned blacklisting, ie scientific journals publishing works on evolution without solid evidence and ignoring works/criticisms of evolution.

    On Darwin there a few motives, ie pride, and these are also exposed in the book. For instance when another scientist has a similar theory to Darwin, he complains to his friend that the competing theorist has better navigated the holes in the theory in the way he presents it.
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #11 on: March 03, 2025, 03:30:40 PM »
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  • So, the answer is very simple.  Just think about it a bit.  If people knew the earth is flat, an enclosed system with a firmament, Intelligent Design would be impossible to reject.  Now, the evolutionary system requires planets turning into balls.  Why?  Because if you have a Big Bang explosion and claim that gravity congealed things into stars and planet, they must necessarily from into these balls.  Evolution is dead if the earth is flat.  Several prominent Flat Earthers were in fact atheists or agnostics before they become convinced of FE but then came to believe in God.  Millions of souls could be saved by revealing FE, and the controllers above all want to destroy souls.

    Finally, I believe that the end times deception will present Anti-Christ as an alien, and an alien invasion will be used to trick and control mankind ... as von Braun himself warned was going to happen.  But, if the earth is flat, a closed system with a firmament, then there's no such thing as "aliens" and that entire agenda would be upended.
    Bravo!
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #12 on: March 03, 2025, 08:58:21 PM »
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  • Right now I'm looking at a moon lit up from the direction of the ground by a sun that has set below the horizon.
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #13 on: March 04, 2025, 09:00:29 AM »
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  • While some may observe that they think they see too far, or the horizon looks flat while someone tells them it's flat, so the earth must be flat, I see a sun set below the horizon without shrinking in size & fading away as if becoming more distant. I see a moon lit from the same direction as where the sun went, underground so it would appear. I know that if as I observe this last night I were to call someone on the other side of world in China, they would tell me the sun is up.

    Trust your eyes.
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    Re: Balloon footage - it's flat
    « Reply #14 on: March 04, 2025, 09:35:49 AM »
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  • While some may observe that they think they see too far, or the horizon looks flat while someone tells them it's flat, so the earth must be flat, I see a sun set below the horizon without shrinking in size & fading away as if becoming more distant. I see a moon lit from the same direction as where the sun went, underground so it would appear. I know that if as I observe this last night I were to call someone on the other side of world in China, they would tell me the sun is up.

    Trust your eyes.
    I see the same thing.