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Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
« on: April 25, 2025, 10:21:28 PM »
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  • A lot of great arguments for the position "it was faked".

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    Re: Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
    « Reply #1 on: April 26, 2025, 11:04:07 AM »
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  • A lot of great arguments for the position "it was faked".


    It doesn't mean much when argued with AI that makes up answers when it doesn't know something, and caves into agreeing with whoever is asking the questions if told it is wrong. Also, he doesn't let it answer many times, and also claims to know more than he really does. So, it amounts basically to 2 idiots arguing with each other.
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    Re: Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
    « Reply #2 on: April 26, 2025, 11:12:32 AM »
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  • My point is that he gave many excellent arguments during the argument. Not that AI is infallible or any such nonsense.

    Why does the thing never land on a bush? There are tons of bushes in that area. A parachute is incapable of left/right fine control movement to avoid bushes, which completely litter the landing area.

    That whole Blue Organ fiasco was as fake as a 3-dollar bill. It's an intelligence test, as I see it. Like C0vid.
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    Re: Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
    « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2025, 12:20:44 PM »
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  • ChatGPT is getting better in some respects ... where I've asked it to write a bunch of code (in different languages) ... and it's not half bad.  You still need to tell it exactly what to do and for that you need to know what you're talking about.  But it's getting better, to the point that they'll probably just lay off most of us IT types and have Indians there telling ChatGPT to write stuff.

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    Re: Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2025, 04:28:15 PM »
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  • He did another one, about acceleration, orbiting, and satellites.
    It was quite good.

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    Re: Arguing with ChatGPT about Blue Origin flight
    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2025, 06:05:08 PM »
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  • My point is that he gave many excellent arguments during the argument. Not that AI is infallible or any such nonsense.

    Why does the thing never land on a bush? There are tons of bushes in that area. A parachute is incapable of left/right fine control movement to avoid bushes, which completely litter the landing area.

    That whole Blue Organ fiasco was as fake as a 3-dollar bill. It's an intelligence test, as I see it. Like C0vid.
    I doubt you or Dirth has verified from all angles and after the capsule is moved that there were no bushes under it. Maybe he has. And maybe they do fake it 100%. I doubt landing several hundred pounds on a desert bush would cause problems.

    Anyway, if you put your bias aside you could say that there are many great arguments for globe earth. I'll even say that there are many convincing FE claims, but they rarely, if ever, hold up to testing that discerns what in them is true and false, and what is compatible with a globe model.


    He did another one, about acceleration, orbiting, and satellites.
    It was quite good.


    He doesn't even know what acceleration is. It's like a common layman discussing philosophy without knowing the definition of words as used in philosophy. Acceleration is a change in velocity. Velocity is speed and direction, so a change in just one component means a change in velocity. Also the change is not restricted to an increase in speed, but also a decrease. In a stable orbit the direction constantly changes, which means the speed in each direction changes as well, since in some directions the speed may have been zero, in other higher or slower in one direction or the opposite. It makes more sense when plotted on a coordinate plane. If Daniel swings his sling around, he has to exert force to keep it from flying away, yet it never gets closer to his hand.
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