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Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2022, 03:48:59 PM »
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  • Yep Lad I was wrong, it wasn’t the video that was faked, it was it’s interpretation of what happened that was faked and the video was purposely shortened to help “prove” it. :facepalm: I really feel sorry for all those who fall for this nonsense.

    I also love how many of these videos start off by explaining how it is being censored. :laugh2:

    I’m seriously not trying to be mean, but you are way too gullible. Here’s the kicker the full video from the first link proves a global Earth!

    Do your research:



    https://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/1322-flat-earth-not-rocket-hitting-the-dome-the-2014-civilian-space-exploration-rocket-another-flat-earth-fallacy-smashed-into-pieces


    https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-Go-Fast-Rocket-stop-instantaneously-from-3500-mph-not-disintegrate-What-stopped-it
    Well, if anything, this video proves a flat earth.  The go pro lens is sure proof, otherwise the bending back and forth of the edge would not happen.  Naturally, earth doesn't bend both convex and concave at the same time as the video suggests. So in between the bends is the true form of the earth and it is flat like the views from cameras 120,000" up.  Hmm.  I wonder what suddenly stopped the rocket from continuing to ascend?  

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #121 on: October 23, 2022, 04:02:52 PM »
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  • Well, if anything, this video proves a flat earth.  The go pro lens is sure proof, otherwise the bending back and forth of the edge would not happen.  Naturally, earth doesn't bend both convex and concave at the same time as the video suggests. So in between the bends is the true form of the earth and it is flat like the views from cameras 120,000" up.  Hmm.  I wonder what suddenly stopped the rocket from continuing to ascend? 


    I you read the third link I posted, the guy who sent up the rocket gives you the answer.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #122 on: October 23, 2022, 05:15:05 PM »
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  • I you read the third link I posted, the guy who sent up the rocket gives you the answer.
    I was kidding.  But then, there's no proof in that video either way.  In the meantime,  the truth about the earth doesn't need ifs or maybes, even if the video was true.  We already have the truth, in every sector, and irrefutable support for a simple, subtle, obvious proofs that do no harm, work in tandem with Christianity as well as with the saints, and simultaneously untangles a millennia-old false narrative that annoyingly continues to enable the pagan world to enrich themselves, to control people who love God and to deny metaphysical reality, all by popular demand.  It's time we take back what is ours and defend things the way God made them.  Heaven is above, hell is below, earth is not a moving globe, God is the author of creation. Catholics should bid good riddance to all nuances of pagan persuasions, most urgently the political/economic aspect wreaking havoc and spreading apostasy, which is globalism.  Interestingly, globalism espouses and promotes globe earth, something that should make people go hmmm...    

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #123 on: October 23, 2022, 05:35:15 PM »
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  • I was kidding.  But then, there's no proof in that video either way.  In the meantime,  the truth about the earth doesn't need ifs or maybes, even if the video was true.  We already have the truth, in every sector, and irrefutable support for a simple, subtle, obvious proofs that do no harm, work in tandem with Christianity as well as with the saints, and simultaneously untangles a millennia-old false narrative that annoyingly continues to enable the pagan world to enrich themselves, to control people who love God and to deny metaphysical reality, all by popular demand.  It's time we take back what is ours and defend things the way God made them.  Heaven is above, hell is below, earth is not a moving globe, God is the author of creation. Catholics should bid good riddance to all nuances of pagan persuasions, most urgently the political/economic aspect wreaking havoc and spreading apostasy, which is globalism.  Interestingly, globalism espouses and promotes globe earth, something that should make people go hmmm...   


    I just returned from taking 2 telescopes (refractor and reflector) and my Nikon binoculars to the lake near me that is 20.1 miles long. I also bought 5 of my children to confirm my findings. Take a guess what we saw? Nothing, there were no trees or buildings as they were all below the curvature of the Earth.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #124 on: October 23, 2022, 05:46:06 PM »
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  • I just returned from taking 2 telescopes (refractor and reflector) and my Nikon binoculars to the lake near me that is 20.1 miles long. I also bought 5 of my children to confirm my findings. Take a guess what we saw? Nothing, there were no trees or buildings as they were all below the curvature of the Earth.
    That's one assessment, but a truth seeker will do due diligence to make sure they haven't missed something.  


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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #125 on: October 23, 2022, 05:58:53 PM »
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  • I just returned from taking 2 telescopes (refractor and reflector) and my Nikon binoculars to the lake near me that is 20.1 miles long. I also bought 5 of my children to confirm my findings. Take a guess what we saw? Nothing, there were no trees or buildings as they were all below the curvature of the Earth.


    What demonstrates the global Earth even more is that the picture that I posted shows the tops of the trees on the side of the lake just the way they should be seen at around 13 to 15 miles out. I was about 15 feet eye level above the water line and I used Google Earth and this calculator to figure out the measurements:  http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator




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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #126 on: October 23, 2022, 06:14:18 PM »
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  • What demonstrates the global Earth even more is that the picture that I posted shows the tops of the trees on the side of the lake just the way they should be seen at around 13 to 15 miles out. I was about 15 feet eye level above the water line and I used Google Earth and this calculator to figure out the measurements:  http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator
    Continuing to study this first hand is the best thing you can do.  Keep going.

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #127 on: October 23, 2022, 06:17:48 PM »
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  • Yep Lad I was wrong, it wasn’t the video that was faked, it was it’s interpretation of what happened that was faked and the video was purposely shortened to help “prove” it. :facepalm: I really feel sorry for all those who fall for this nonsense.

    I also love how many of these videos start off by explaining how it is being censored. :laugh2:

    I’m seriously not trying to be mean, but you are way too gullible. Here’s the kicker the full video from the first link proves a global Earth!

    Do your research:



    https://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/1322-flat-earth-not-rocket-hitting-the-dome-the-2014-civilian-space-exploration-rocket-another-flat-earth-fallacy-smashed-into-pieces


    https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-Go-Fast-Rocket-stop-instantaneously-from-3500-mph-not-disintegrate-What-stopped-it

    Actually, this video really destroys FE in one fell swoop. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #128 on: October 23, 2022, 06:18:42 PM »
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  • Continuing to study this first hand is the best thing you can do.  Keep going.

    I appreciate the honesty, thank you!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #129 on: October 23, 2022, 06:23:34 PM »
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  • Miser, here is a picture of the lake I posted about. It was photographed with my phone, so it’s not perfect. But I know it is real because I was the one who did it:



    Here is the picture I posted.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #130 on: October 23, 2022, 06:57:14 PM »
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  • Here is the picture I posted.

    What are you talking about?  You didn't zoom in on the trees at all.  This picture shows absolutely nothing of any scientific value.  Take a Nikon P900 or P1000, zoom in on the trees as close as you can get, and then get back to us.

    From this distance, without zooming, ABSOLUTELY a 5-foot wave could obscure 15 feet of trees.  It's simple perspective, man.  If the waves are closer to you, they are BIGGER in your line of site than the trees many miles away.  Something 5 feet tall that's within 100 yards of you is going to be bigger than something that's 100 feet tall and several miles away.  You need to actually zoom in on the target.

    For this to be of any scientific value, you need to docuмent 1) where you are, 2) how far away the trees are, 3) what the conditions are (wave heights, atmospheric conditions), 4) what camera you're using and at what zoom level.  That's just to get the data.  But you need to zoom in on those trees.  Due to perspective, things start to converge with the horizon.  I've seen dozens of views just like that that when you zoom in on them, the bottom starts to reappear and it was just an optical thing due to perspective, the limits of our vision (in the case of your camera's low zoom level), etc.


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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #131 on: October 23, 2022, 07:05:12 PM »
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  • Here's a photo of a lake located north of where I live. I didn't take it. Notice that there's no curve. It's as straight as can be. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #132 on: October 23, 2022, 07:10:03 PM »
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  • What are you talking about?  You didn't zoom in on the trees at all.  This picture shows absolutely nothing of any scientific value.  Take a Nikon P900 or P1000, zoom in on the trees as close as you can get, and then get back to us.

    From this distance, without zooming, ABSOLUTELY a 5-foot wave could obscure 15 feet of trees.  It's simple perspective, man.  If the waves are closer to you, they are BIGGER in your line of site than the trees many miles away.  Something 5 feet tall that's within 100 yards of you is going to be bigger than something that's 100 feet tall and several miles away.  You need to actually zoom in on the target.

    For this to be of any scientific value, you need to docuмent 1) where you are, 2) how far away the trees are, 3) what the conditions are (wave heights, atmospheric conditions), 4) what camera you're using and at what zoom level.  That's just to get the data.  But you need to zoom in on those trees.  Due to perspective, things start to converge with the horizon.  I've seen dozens of views just like that that when you zoom in on them, the bottom starts to reappear and it was just an optical thing due to perspective, the limits of our vision (in the case of your camera's low zoom level), etc.

    Did you happen to read my post above about the telescopes and binoculars? I also used a curvature calculator in conjunction with Google maps to do the calculations.

    What I’m really anxious to read is your rebuttal of the full length “very real” video that supposedly shows the firmament. Will you admit that it blows your FE theory out of the water? Keep in mind that the end of the video (not a NASA video) shows a globe Earth.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #133 on: October 23, 2022, 07:12:55 PM »
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  • Here's a photo of a lake located north of where I live. I didn't take it. Notice that there's no curve. It's as straight as can be.

    :facepalm:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Answering the Flat Earthers - Robert Sungenis Live | Wed, Oct. 19 2022
    « Reply #134 on: October 23, 2022, 08:41:15 PM »
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  • Here's a photo of a lake located north of where I live. I didn't take it. Notice that there's no curve. It's as straight as can be.
    Not sure why the globers keep trying to suggest water surface can curve. Water surface is absolutely incapable of curving. It's kind of like God wanted to give us a clue. Great photo.