If you want to believe the Earth's flat, that's okay, I'm not a theologian but I've never heard that it's a heresy. People may think it's flat because it's still, and stillness may remind them of a flat surface, whereas a spherical shape may suggest to some in the subconscious a sense of "motion" ...

But water is naturally spherical itself, as it comes in particles as drops. When raindrops are falling, they tend to conform to the shape of pure space itself, which is spherical too. When they land on the surface of the Earth, they are traveling to the center. The center is equally related to all points on the surface in 3-D, and the only way that equal relation can be is if the Earth's a sphere.

How to prove that the center is equally related to all points on the surface? Because the direction called down that is perpendicular to water is the same angle and aspect for everybody around the Earth. It goes right below the feet in a universal way.

"Heavy" objects around the Earth like water fall down not because of Newtonian "gravity" but simply because they are too heavy to be supported by air.

Actually, as Tradman can demonstrate, the Early Church Fathers believed the earth was flat. 

Plus
"The ancient Hebrews, like all the ancient peoples of the Near East, believed the sky was a solid dome with the Sun, Moon, planets and stars embedded in it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament







Firmament is in the Bible 23 times.

Anyway, water drops are different from bodies of water which are always

LEVEL

If water is spherical then why do they use it to measure sea LEVEL

and why do builders use Water Levels? 

If water is spherical that would really mess up their building plans wouldn't it?

Don't they use water because at rest it's always LEVEL?










It's been used for surveying land since ancient times:



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So if you are building a home or a deck on the side of a mountain or hill 

use water to make sure it's LEVEL and you don't end up leaning over.

There are tons of videos online demonstrating GE ...

No there aren't. 

Go out and get yourself a Nikon camera and see for yourself.  Much of the evidence for FE is independently verifiable in that it was produced by people who had no agenda, i.e. the record long-distance photographs from 300 miles away.  Person who took it was just trying to take a picture and was not an FE and didn't understand its implications.  Dr. John D, who's put together the most scientific and most convincing experiments, he always announces beforehand when he's going to go out and do experiments, invites people to observe, and then livestreams them.  You can find his live-streamed videos out there.

Both the 120,000 balloon footage and the rocket that just stopped were experiments conducted by people who had no agenda, for various other scientific motives ... and for fun.  They were not Flat Earthers.  Plenty of the videos/footage were done/taken by people who were not trying to prove anything but just wanted to send a balloon or rocket with a camera on them up as high as they could.

Speaking of the rocket that just stopped, you don't believe in a firmament even though Sacred Scripture clearly teaches it?  Or do you assert that the firmament is just a word for "space" ... even though it's utterly preposterous and just one step away from Father Robinson's Local Flood.  Word itself in Hebrew derives from beaten metal, and this firmament is clearly said to keep waters out from the earth.  Church Fathers were unanimous in their belief in a literal solid firmament (vs. just being a metaphor for space), although they debated what it was made of and disagreed about whether the entire firmament rotated around the earth or whether somehow the objects IN the firmament, i.e. the stars could somehow move through it (while it stayed still) even though it was solid.

A center in relation to space, of course, not simply a center in space, nothing so gauche as that in these elevated terms. etc.

No there aren't. 

Go out and get yourself a Nikon camera and see for yourself.  Much of the evidence for FE is independently verifiable in that it was produced by people who had no agenda, i.e. the record long-distance photographs from 300 miles away.  Person who took it was just trying to take a picture and was not an FE and didn't understand its implications.  Dr. John D, who's put together the most scientific and most convincing experiments, he always announces beforehand when he's going to go out and do experiments, invites people to observe, and then livestreams them.  You can find his live-streamed videos out there.

Both the 120,000 balloon footage and the rocket that just stopped were experiments conducted by people who had no agenda, for various other scientific motives ... and for fun.  They were not Flat Earthers.  Plenty of the videos/footage were done/taken by people who were not trying to prove anything but just wanted to send a balloon or rocket with a camera on them up as high as they could.

Speaking of the rocket that just stopped, you don't believe in a firmament even though Sacred Scripture clearly teaches it?  Or do you assert that the firmament is just a word for "space" ... even though it's utterly preposterous and just one step away from Father Robinson's Local Flood.  Word itself in Hebrew derives from beaten metal, and this firmament is clearly said to keep waters out from the earth.  Church Fathers were unanimous in their belief in a literal solid firmament (vs. just being a metaphor for space), although they debated what it was made of and disagreed about whether the entire firmament rotated around the earth or whether somehow the objects IN the firmament, i.e. the stars could somehow move through it (while it stayed still) even though it was solid.

Sorry, but there are many videos that show ships disappearing over the horizon and demonstrating a GE. As a matter of fact the Dimond Brothers, who you agree with on many points, produced a video supporting a GE:

https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/50-reasons-earth-not-flat/

Just because I don’t believe some fake video of a rocket supposedly stopping in the firmament, I deny that the firmament exists? Really?  You say that that the experiments using balloons and rockets where conducted by people that didn’t have an agenda. How do you know that? Do you realize there are many thousands of fake videos uploaded to YouTube every month just to get hits? Why is everything that NASA produces automatically deemed fake by you (to be clear, I don’t trust their videos either), but YouTube videos supporting a FE, produced by unknown people with an unknown agenda, are given the benefit of the doubt?

Before this topic started being discussed in the past year or two, I never had any idea people believed such bizarre things as that space is covered by some sort of ceiling, and that the stars are basically light bulbs in this ceiling. If I had heard that some tribe in the jungles of Africa believed in such a primitive and ludicrous idea, I would have had a hard time believing it. But to see an intelligent and highly-educated American profess such beliefs really makes me question a lot of what I thought about the human race. I can also hardly believe the childlike simplicity with which Ladislaus believes seemingly anything he sees on YouTube, such as these videos he just posted.

Lad, the firmament refers to the fact that the stars are fixed relative to each other, in such a way that they all rotate around the earth without changing their position relative to each other. That is what is firm -- their relative position, which makes them appear as if they were embedded in a solid object. That's what is observable, but to say that therefore they are in some sort of glass ceiling is just absurd.

If you really take these videos of the rockets hitting the "firmament" that seriously, then how high up do you think this ceiling is? One or two of those rockets supposedly hit it without about a minute or so of launch. Wouldn't that put this ceiling about a couple thousand feet up? Is that what you think? What about air travel?

Hmmm...as for the question about the mast disappearing last, I recall discussing with you the way the vanishing point perspective works for any object moving away from the viewer.  As the object reaches the vanishing point on the horizon it disappears from the bottom up.

I've never heard anyone make the claim that 5 foot waves are involved. lol

The Nikon P900 can bring ships into view from distances that should be hidden behind a solid physical curve.

As for the sun setting without getting smaller, it's appearance is affected by the atmospheric conditions as this short video explains:
4min 7sec
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6kOMNFz0TpPs/

Conversely, the question can be asked, if the sun is millions of miles away, why does it often appear to be get smaller and smaller in size as it sets??  If it's as large as they say and as far away as they say, a few miles of distance shouldn't make a change in it's appearance.

Here is more on how the sun over Flat Earth:
19min 59sec
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NYNoDUv8llW6/

Perhaps you can explain why the sun can't be smaller and like a flashlight?  Is there a reason that simply isn't possible.

There are times you can see stars or clouds through the moon so it does appear to be translucent.  In any case, the moon rocks NASA brought back were tested and found to be petrified wood. lol

Do you have any videos of science experiments showing a body of water without a container or how water sticks to a ball or how buildings and boats and people can be upside down on the ball and not notice it?  I wasn't born last night either and those things seem quite preposterous!  lol  ::shrug::

Miser, here is a picture of the lake I posted about. It was photographed with my phone, so it’s not perfect. But I know it is real because I was the one who did it:

Earth curvature calculator:

http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator