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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: St Augustine's supposed theistic evolution.
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2023, 03:11:21 PM »
Apart from the notion that Fr. Robison casts aspersions on Sacred Scripture, how absurdly ludicrous is the entire notion of a "local" or "regional" flood.  What was the point of spending many, many years building the ark, when Noah could simply have been given advance warning and told to just pick up and move?  He could have made it out of the danger area in a fraction of the time and effort that it took to build the ark.  Why put all those animals on the ark when they clearly were not going to go extinct, since they were all over the earth?  God wanted to save one or two endangered species that were localized in the same region where the flood took place?  Even then, God could have moved them to migrate.  If it weren't so tragic and harmful to souls, it would be ludicrous.  But, then, who knows?, maybe Fr. Robinson doesn't believe that Noah even built an ark.  Perhaps, in his mind, that was just a fanciful story mean to be an allegory for the Church.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: St Augustine's supposed theistic evolution.
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2023, 03:13:50 PM »
Quote from: cassini on September 10, 2023, 02:18:40 PM
Just so others know what Fr Paul Robinson, SSPX, is up to out there, teaching the following to their seminarians.

‘This position of the Flood as being geographically universal meets with serious scientific difficulties. For one, how can you get enough rain to cover the entire earth?... In other words, the laws operating on the Earth today cannot be applied to the time of Noah… One of the motivations for Brown to postulate water coming from below [the Earth] is that the Bible describes the waters of the Flood as coming both from the ‘fountains of great deep’ and the ‘floodgates of Heaven’ (see Gen, 8:2) …. Clearly this is a popular, but not a scientific description.’--- Fr Paul Robinson. The Realist Guide to Religion and Science, Gracewing, 2018, pp. 274-275. 

The Flood was a supernatural act of God, not a natural flood. But Fr Robinson demotes it to a ‘scientific’ natural flood, denying Moses his account.

‘[12] And the rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights. [18] For they overflowed exceedingly: and filled all on the face of the earth: [19] And the waters prevailed beyond measure upon the earth: and all the high mountains were covered. [20] The water was fifteen cubits higher than the mountains.’--- Genesis.

In his book, The City of God, St Augustine, in his chapter, ‘Of the ark, and the Deluge, that the meaning thereof is neither merely historical, nor merely allegoric,’ defends a world covered in water and how the Ark saved man and all the living creatures that lived on its lands. St Augustine adds:

‘Who but an atheist… First they imagine it impossible that any flood should become so huge as to exceed the height of any mountain fifteen cubits…’(Chapter  XXVII)

Moreover, the mountainous worldwide sediments present evidence of a global flood? Take also the vast deposits of silt and salt found in the Euphrates Valley in Iran, a high plateau 4000 to 5000 feet above sea level. Is that not enough scientific evidence to show the Flood had to be global? Does Fr Robinson's 'science' believe these could have been caused by local floods? Not very scientific is he?




And the SSPX threw out Bishop Williamson instead of this heretic?
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