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Offline Tradman

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Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2023, 01:01:03 PM »
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  • Time and Date (.com) shows that around 95% of the land mass of earth is in daylight on July 8th or 9th.  They talk about population but that seems like a distraction IMHO.  They say: "While we’re confident in our calculations and data sets, it’s worth repeating that determining how many people experience day, night, or twilight at any one moment is a rather messy business. For one, the world’s population isn’t static."  Pretty dumb excuse.

    They also talk about "some kind of daylight for everyone", not daylight, but again, that is a bit dishonest.  If greater than 50% of the "globe" is lit, (the picture shows about 95%) and that most of the population sees daylight, when 1/2 of the earth should be dark if it were spherical, we can be sure the earth is not a globe.   

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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #46 on: September 10, 2023, 01:09:10 PM »
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  • Time and Date (.com) shows that around 95% of the land mass of earth is in daylight on July 8th or 9th.  They talk about population but that seems like a distraction IMHO.  They say: "While we’re confident in our calculations and data sets, it’s worth repeating that determining how many people experience day, night, or twilight at any one moment is a rather messy business. For one, the world’s population isn’t static."  Pretty dumb excuse.

    Yeah, I'm sure that a huge percentage of the world's population is moving to or travelling in Australia at any given time.

    :facepalm:

    There's no way to turn the globe where both China and the United States are in daylight at the same time, and either one of those missing would invalidate those numbers.


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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #47 on: September 10, 2023, 01:09:23 PM »
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  • Am I just really smart, that I notice things?

    Does this not jump out at anyone else, immediately?

    Just LOOK at the graphic for this "glober" propaganda video. It shows the earth clearly dark on the right side, but almost the whole earth is illuminated! Not possible in the mainstream "earth ball/globe" model.

    The stillshot for that video is EXTREMELY dishonest, and is trying to suggest that a globe can be soft-lit all around or something, despite only having ONE light source (the sun). They're trying to give the reader/watcher an excuse they can run with -- even if a completely lame, made-up one -- to dismiss the July 9th phenomenon. They're trying to help them picture what it looks like on July 9th.

    They're taking a page out of Hollywood's book: you can display anything on-screen, however ridiculous, against nature, or contradictory, and make it look realistic and even REAL because it's right there on the screen, apparently in "real life". Good guys should have seized the media apparatus instead of ceding it to the bad guys. It's a very powerful tool of propaganda.

    But then again, these absolute fools think we landed on the Moon in the 1970's as well, so they're pretty hopelessly self-deluded.
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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #48 on: September 10, 2023, 01:12:13 PM »
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  • But then again, these absolute fools think we landed on the Moon in the 1970's as well, so they're pretty hopelessly self-deluded.

    Right, the same ones who believe that 9/11 was perpetrated by 9 Arabs with box cutters, guys who couldn't pass Cessna flight school and yet performed maneuvers that professional pilots stood in awe of, that a steel building that wasn't even struck could collapse symmetrically into its own footprint at freefall speeds due to a couple small fires in one corner, that Joe Biden got 81 million votes, including more Black voters than Obama got, and that the jab is "safe and effective".  There's probably a huge segment of the population that will simply accept and assimilate ANY propaganda put out there by the government.

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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #49 on: September 10, 2023, 01:34:34 PM »
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  • I agree they can make anything look like anything on screen but we also use simulations to help illustrate points of flat earth like Google earth and the pilot video. The atmosphere carrying or affecting light I would think happens on a flat earth model as well and when the sun has set we do still see light so it didn't seem too farfetched to me at least which was why I was seeing if you guys had any comment on it. Just trying to see all sides of the situation which is difficult since flat earth stuff is suppressed. 


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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #50 on: September 10, 2023, 02:41:10 PM »
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  • I'm going to help you out here.

    Look at the first 3 pictures to see a "globe earth" lit by a single Sun 93 million miles away. Then look at the 4th picture, and you'll start to see the deception I pointed out.

    I'll give you a hint.

    Proposition: On July 9th, 95% of the world's population in daylight.

    First 3 pictures: ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. Physically impossible.
    Last picture: I don't know, hmmm..., the scientist said so. I guess it makes sense...
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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #51 on: September 10, 2023, 04:37:43 PM »
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  • So all 4 are computer generated. The first 3 I've seen before and are the most common. The last with the gradient I've never seen before so I get where you're coming from there. I'm not sure the first three were designed to capture twilight but maybe they were and it's a deception like you said. I did check the day and night world map and it's definitely not accurate lol. I just cross referenced when last light would be and then checked it on the website and it should be fully daylight or barely twilight. Found several instances of that. 

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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #52 on: September 10, 2023, 04:50:06 PM »
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  • So all 4 are computer generated. The first 3 I've seen before and are the most common. The last with the gradient I've never seen before so I get where you're coming from there. I'm not sure the first three were designed to capture twilight but maybe they were and it's a deception like you said.

    My point was that WAY too much of the earth was illuminated in the 4th "deceptive" picture. Draw an imaginary line halfway, and see how much the light creeps into the dark side. Especially at the top & bottom, but also in the middle. It's like magic. It makes you think maybe the only REAL darkness at one given time (July 9th?) is some vast section of uninhabited ocean or something -- then hey, it's possible like the scientist said!

    To put it another way: imagine that globe earth is a delicious pie, and I offer to split it with you. I get all the parts illuminated by the sun, and you get the parts in total darkness. Wouldn't be a very fair deal in that 4th picture, eh? You'd get less than 1/3 or even 1/4 of the pie. But the other pictures would be almost perfectly fair.

    And the terminator line is pretty sharp from a distance. The atmosphere doesn't refract sunlight 20 - 30 degrees around on each side or some such nonsense. Look up the definition of astronomical or nautical twilight.

    No. Just no. Look at the FIRST images, which are an accurate representation of what HALF the earth being in darkness would look like, if the globe fantasy were true.
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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #53 on: September 10, 2023, 04:59:19 PM »
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  • Nautical twilight is a period in the morning and evening when the sun is between six and 12 degrees below the horizon. The horizon and the brighter stars are usually visible, making it possible to navigate at sea. The sky is dim and bluish, and artificial light is needed for detailed activities. Nautical twilight is the second twilight phase, after civil twilight and before astronomical twilight.

    Basically "dark as night". That's 6-12 degrees below the horizon.

    Here's another deceptive graphic. Those markings are NOT drawn to scale. I put a red square at the 45 degree mark -- I used a protractor overlay to get it precise. I had to scale the protractor down, so the numbers are blocky, but it still works perfectly for the job. The red square is the halfway point, or FORTY-FIVE degrees. They show about 32 degrees and label it "18 degrees". At their scale, you'd have about 24 of their degrees before you'd find yourself actually at the 45-degree mark! Insane.

    Maybe it's a widespread issue that too much of the earth is lit up at once for the globe model? I didn't know that, but having barely dug below the surface I found not one but TWO images that are completely doctored to convince people that it's normal/expected for more than 1/2 the earth to receive sunlight at once.

    By the way, as a man who spends LOTS of time outside, I'm here to tell you: at the 6 degree point, about 25 min. after "sundown", you can't do any work outside without a flashlight. If you dropped a 50 dollar bill on the ground, you wouldn't be able to find it without artificial lighting. You basically can't find weeds in a garden. It's when I say "time to go inside". And that's just 6 degrees below the horizon.

    In other words, the only appreciable "daylight" is the first kind of twilight, Civil Twilight. End of list. The others are basically night, night-er, and pitch black.
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    Re: 99% of world population in daylight - WHAT?
    « Reply #54 on: September 10, 2023, 05:31:13 PM »
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  • I see. Yeah that is very deceptive. Sorry I didn't understand what you meant before so this is a lot clearer. I also found a Google search that asks why you can see the sun in Sydney, UK and the US at the same time and I'm trying to configure the globe in such a way to make them visible and not sure I can do that. These are really good examples thanks. Do you happen to have an interactive flat earth map I can play with. Just something I can use to check the times and compare the models. Also a book with formula would be helpful as well. Just trying to get some good resources