Author Topic: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat (Read 227798 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1320 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:13:53 PM »

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At Bonneville salt flats, Utah, they say:

"This place is so flat, it is said you can see the curvature of the planet in its horizons."

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1321 on:** May 27, 2018, 01:03:37 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on May 07, 2018, 04:23:44 AM

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It goes to show how flat-earthers keep trying to dumb-down the discussion.
They're like the progressive education policy makers who are destroying our schools these days: dumbing down the schools.
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I made just one post that included:

Why a straight line track on earth for large distances is not possible

What the shortest distance is between any two points on the earth

Shorter arc of circle passing through both points + this circle has largest radius possible

This video also covers why navigators do not generally use GC route plan but series of short Rhumb line segments

The reason is GC course execution is not practical since it requires constant course adjustment port and starboard

Short segments of Rhumb line however only need occasional adjustment with steady rudder settings in between

So how do they respond?
Do they have anything to say about the shortest line between two points on earth? No.
Do they have a comment about large distances being impossible to track with a straight line? No.
Anything about arc or circles passing through points and their radius? No.
Navigators? Do we have questions or comments about navigators? No.
Have they learned to type "GC"? No.
Can they type the word "rumb?" No.
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All they have to say is:

Pretending a line is an arc or a plane is a sphere is the common tom foolery of the globalists.
An individual's reality changes when people arbitrarily change definitions with an intent to deceive.
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Actually, I could have written these mundane idiocies in advance for you but why bother -- let them dig their own grave.

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Hey, Ladislaus, why don't you drop in and shred this bad argument?
That's what you're good at, remember?
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Quote from: Ladislaus on May 10, 2018, 12:43:04 PM

I do not have a lot of God-given talents, but I am very skilled at shredding bad arguments to pieces. I can see logical flaws miles away and rip them apart in seconds. Other than that, I have a very poor memory, and not very many talents in other areas.

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Rip it apart in seconds! Go! Go! Go! ................................
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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1322 on:** May 29, 2018, 08:19:12 PM »

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Still waiting for Ladislaus-the-bad-argument-shredding-genius to step in and show off his stuff.
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Waiting for what, 4 weeks? Or is it longer? No, about 4 weeks now.
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Hey, Ladislaus!
Remember your favorite canard that you find it "compelling" that a ship apparently receding beyond the curvature of the sea can be brought back into full view by zooming in with a camera lens?
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Remember that?
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Or have you forgotten all about it?
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Maybe we need to show you some links to your past posts where you said that............
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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1323 on:** June 28, 2018, 04:55:01 PM »

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Ladislaus is still hiding, after a month.
Hey, Ladislaus! Do you think by ignoring it this is going to go away quietly?

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(Or as Matthew hates to see, "quitely?"

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The word on the street at Bonneville salt flats, Utah:

"This place is so flat, you can see the curvature of the planet on the horizon."

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1324 on:** June 28, 2018, 05:33:35 PM »

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Why a straight line track on earth for large distances is not possible:
---- Flat-earthers have no answer to this. The best they can muster is "perspective!"

Why two courses initially set parallel one mile apart will converge after 300 miles and cross paths
---- No response from flat-earthers! If they ever do respond it will be to deny this ever happens, or it's trickery: we're being lied to!

What the shortest distance is between any two points on the earth
---- Again, flat-earthers have no answer to this. They want to say, "straight line," but they're afraid of the rejoinder.

Shorter arc of circle passing through both points + this circle has largest radius possible
---- The best flat-earthers can do here is to say that an arc is a straight line because the earth is a flat plane. (They like to say "plain.")

This video also covers why navigators do not generally use GC route plan but series of short Rhumb line segments
---- Flat-earthers cannot muster the gumption to pronounce "rhumb" because they deny its existence, like "ellipsoid."

The reason is GC course execution is not practical, since it requires constant course adjustment to port and/or starboard rudder
---- Flat-earthers don't know what GC means, nor do they care. It's not endemic to their flat-earthdown-syndrome thinking.

Short segments of Rhumb lines, however, only need occasional adjustment with steady rudder settings in between
---- This is ENTIRELY OVER THE HEADS of flat-earthdown-syndromers. Entirely Over Their Heads. EOTH.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1325 on:** July 02, 2018, 05:42:04 AM »

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These are examples of objective criteria globe-earthers have presented to flat-earthers to demonstrate how the objective evidence supports the sphericity of earth, and flat-earthers have provided no substantive answers, rather, they attempt to change the subject or criticize the objective criteria on the basis of some re-definition of words or an abstract, contrived fantasy for which they have no credible evidence.

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Why a straight line track on earth for large distances is not possible:
---- Flat-earthers have no answer to this. The best they can muster is "perspective!" (Redefinition of perspective!)

Why two courses initially set parallel one mile apart will converge after 300 miles and cross paths
---- No response from flat-earthers!
If they ever do respond, it will be to deny this ever happens, or it's trickery: we're being lied to!

What the shortest distance is between any two points on the earth
---- Again, flat-earthers have no answer to this. They want to say, "straight line," but they're afraid of the rejoinder.

Shorter arc of circle passing through both points + this circle has largest radius possible
---- The best flat-earthers can do here is to say that an arc is a straight line because the earth is a flat plane. (They like to say, "plain," like where the rain mainly falls in Spain.)

This video also covers why navigators do not generally use GC route plan but series of short Rhumb line segments
---- Flat-earthers cannot muster the gumption to pronounce "rhumb" because they deny its existence, like "ellipsoid."

The reason is GC course execution is not practical, since it requires constant course adjustment to port and/or starboard rudder
---- Flat-earthers don't know what GC means, nor do they care. It's not endemic to their flat-earth thinking.

Short segments of Rhumb lines, however, only need occasional adjustment with steady rudder settings in between
---- This is ENTIRELY OVER THE HEADS of flat-earthers. Entirely Over Their Heads. EOTH.

TLDR (flat-earthers won't read this - But years from now they'll ask, "Why didn't you say this before?" Well, I did.)

Smedley Butler · « **Reply #1326 on:** July 02, 2018, 09:55:24 AM »

Where's da curvature ar Salt Flats?

https://imgur.com/8nbwDYC

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1327 on:** July 03, 2018, 02:43:34 AM »

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Lightening in the clouds!
Author's analysis and FAQs answered: https://randomphotons.com/alone
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Ladislaus · « **Reply #1328 on:** July 03, 2018, 06:18:21 PM »

Neil, even if you you happen to be right, and the earth is a globe, you've still made a fool of yourself and discredited yourself ... being disqualified as someone who can be regarded as sincerely seeking the truth in good will. So you may have won the battle, but you will have lost the war. Why do you think that I accept nothing that you say at face value? Your childish taunting and ridicule of the other position has completely discredited you as a reliable source of objective information. If you said to me, "Good Morning", I'd have to go outside and investigate whether it may not just be night time.

happenby · « **Reply #1329 on:** July 03, 2018, 07:10:37 PM »

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1330 on:** July 04, 2018, 02:17:40 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on July 03, 2018, 06:18:21 PM

Neil, even if you you [sic] happen to be right, and the earth is a globe, you've still made a fool of yourself and discredited yourself ... being disqualified as someone who can be regarded as sincerely seeking the truth in good will. So you may have won the battle, but you will have lost the war. Why do you think that I accept nothing that you say at face value? Your childish taunting and ridicule of the other position has completely discredited you as a reliable source of objective information. If you said to me, "Good Morning", I'd have to go outside and investigate whether it may not just be night time.

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And you, who find it "compelling" when a flat-earther shows the overexposed sun shining 16 times its real size because he deliberately chose NOT to use a solar filter, then zooms in on the SETTING sun (when I said show me AFTER the sunset) to make it appear to shrink, you, who say a boat out at 15 miles from the shore can be made to re-appear when a zoom lens is used, you, who say all the nonsense lies and patent falsehoods of flat-earthism are "compelling" even when I take the time to patiently show you why it's complete balderdash, YOU, I am somehow supposed to be concerned when you don't want to pay attention because your feewings were huwt looking at the mountains of evidence arrayed against flat-earthism?
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How does that go again? Ladislaus is hoisted on his own petard.
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And when I say to you "Good Morning" you would NEVER go outside to observe what I said about the moon, would you? No, you would only go outside to be sure you can't prove me WRONG about something, like whether it's morning or not, but never about what moon phase it is or what the Right Ascension of the moon is or anything relevant to showing you evidence of what the shape of the earth is, no, never anything objectively compelling. You're only compelled by P900 fakery and deliberate obfuscation from the flattards!
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If you're lucky, you might go out to see the fireworks show this evening, and run into a group of fine Americans having a good time with a skit covering the spherical earth basics. Then you can whine at them and explain how they've "lost the war" because flat-earth down syndrome has swept the nation and you're here to show proof of that!
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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1331 on:** July 04, 2018, 02:22:51 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on May 29, 2018, 08:19:12 PM

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Still waiting for Ladislaus-the-bad-argument-shredding-genius to step in and show off his stuff.
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Waiting for what, 4 weeks? Or is it longer? No, about 4 weeks now.
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Hey, Ladislaus!
Remember your favorite canard that you find it "compelling" that a ship apparently receding beyond the curvature of the sea can be brought back into full view by zooming in with a camera lens?
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Remember that?
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Or have you forgotten all about it?
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Maybe we need to show you some links to your past posts where you said that............
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Still waiting!

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1332 on:** July 04, 2018, 02:30:40 AM »

Quote from: happenby on July 03, 2018, 07:10:37 PM

Bump

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Quote from: Ladislaus on May 04, 2018, 07:56:57 AM

This is childish, bumping dormant threads.

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A little discord in the flat-earth ranks now?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1333 on:** July 04, 2018, 02:44:56 AM »

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Bonneville salt flats, where you can see the curvature of the earth in the horizon!
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Video at -

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Refer to this article as to why this is not perspective...
http://flatearthlunacy.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/309-why-not-perspective

Here is some other interesting information:

The Bonneville Salt Flats is a densely packed salt pan in Tooele County in northwestern Utah. The area is a remnant of the Pleistocene Lake Bonneville and is the largest of many salt flats located west of the Great Salt Lake. The property is public land managed by the Bureau of Land Management and is known for land speed records at the "Bonneville Speedway". Access is free and visitors can drive on the flats.

Bonneville Land Speed Racing is a unique sport that consists of very determined people who drive hot rods, roadsters, belly tankers, lakesters, motorcycles, streamliners, and even diesel trucks to "shoot the salt" in a simple quest to have their name added to the list of many record holders. Many years ago, the Bonneville Nationals Inc. (BNI) was formed. It's main focus would be to produce the annual "Bonneville Speed Week".

The BNI hosts a spectacular week of racing each year in August, which is the highlight event of the LSR season.

Speed Week consists of six days of racing (Sat - Fri), weather and conditions permitting. Entrants come from all over the globe to participate in the week-long event. Spectators are allowed to walk through the pits, view the vehicles, and talk to the drivers and crew members, and ask them if they think Bonneville makes them think the earth is "flat" --------------- or not.................
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Smedley Butler · « **Reply #1334 on:** July 04, 2018, 09:15:26 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on July 03, 2018, 02:43:34 AM

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Lightening in the clouds!
Author's analysis and FAQs answered: https://randomphotons.com/alone
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How come no footage like this, or ANY nighttime footage of any kind, is ever shown on the ISS livefeed?
I should be able to see footage like this every 90 minutes.
But you can't.
There is no night footage, ever.

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