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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #1305 on: May 08, 2018, 09:33:09 PM »
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  • Rail lines throughout the United States and Europe (and all countries) are built on the level.
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    This shows how rail lines are much more credible than flat-earthism since the latter is not on the level.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1306 on: May 09, 2018, 02:07:45 AM »
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    The death of flat-earthism has been announced.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1307 on: May 09, 2018, 03:06:56 AM »
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  • Globalists say a plane's attitude indicator magically keeps the PLANE curving around the outside of a spherical earth, so it doesn't go off into space, proving they either have no understanding how such mechanical devices work, or they are liars. 
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    Here is a flight instructor explaining the concept, if you'd like to learn something. 
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1308 on: May 09, 2018, 08:04:07 AM »
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    This shows how rail lines are much more credible than flat-earthism since the latter is not on the
    Nothing here.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1309 on: May 09, 2018, 01:33:56 PM »
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    Here is a flight instructor explaining the concept, if you'd like to learn something.
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    That was the wrong video. (After I posted this, the video above was changed in the post so now it's a different one.)
    Here is a commercial pilot and flight instructor, explaining how gyros (Artificial Horizon) work in aircraft:
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                      Artificial Horizon Experiments
    1. Prove Artificial Horizon Instruments have self-correcting mechanism.
    2. Prove the Instrument will always correct to level.
    3. The correction rate is faster than 1 degree in 8 minutes. (This is faster than 450 mph takes to traverse 1 degree of curvature.)
    4. Debunks the flat-earth claims that an Artificial Horizon is evidence of a "flat" earth.
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    At the end of this video I address several points that I see often in comments by Flat Earthers.

    The experiments prove that the instrument "is capable" of remaining level while flying across curve.

    That fully debunks the Flat Earth claims that the Artificial Horizon is evidence of a Flat Earth.

    This instrument can easily correct for curvature and therefore will show level as you fly around a curved Earth.

    The errors you see in this video will never occur in a normal flight.

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    World map WGS84 basis for GPS, international flights, major international airports for use by aircraft.

    Incredibly accurate world map, with tolerance within 2 centimeters.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1310 on: May 09, 2018, 02:24:21 PM »
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    That was the wrong video.
    Thass right.  Seems to be your tendency.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1311 on: May 10, 2018, 06:33:35 PM »
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  • Thass right.  Seems to be your tendency.
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    You don't even know what I was talking about.
    The video I posted is now showing up there but it wasn't for a few hours.
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    This is what I get for trying to be polite. Didn't your mother teach you basic manners?
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1312 on: May 10, 2018, 06:47:17 PM »
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    Your lack of understanding indicates a failed attempt to stay relevant in a discussion way above your head.

    Just asking what globalist are saying these days. Obviously you don't know.


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1313 on: May 10, 2018, 07:21:53 PM »
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    The death of flat-earthism has been announced.
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    Anyone can verify this, anywhere on the earth.
    But flat-earthers are terrified of the truth.
    They won't dare take the first step toward verification.
    They know their pet fake fantasy theory is nonsense.
    And they don't dare test it, because then they'll have to admit they've been wrong all along.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1314 on: May 14, 2018, 05:56:37 AM »
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  •  Perhaps *you* have a reading comprehension problem. Besides, all evidence, scientific, empirical, by the senses, by the Church Fathers, by scripture, and from the Church Herself teach the earth is flat. You have to quit parroting the false, and study.

    LOL. What scientific evidence? Please cite the empirical, peer-reviewed journal and study proving the "earth is flat."

    It's funny that you claim "science proves the earth is flat", when it's you "flat earthers" who say "science has conspired to deceive everyone to think the earth is a globe."

    Which is it? You people contradict yourselves.
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    After 5 months, still no peer reviewed study proving the earth is "flat?"
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    Maybe we need another 5 months? And another? And another? And another.... (?)
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1315 on: May 14, 2018, 07:10:04 PM »
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    Ahr yoo shore abowt thad?
    Then the Flat Earth Model you believe in has the sun actively rising and falling, not revolving above it as I've seen most of you posit. Of course this would not explain how the sun is seen around the world 24/7, unless you believed there was a hemisphere on the opposite side of the earth disk, but since the sun goes from east to west and not north to south or vice-versa, you can't neatly fold it along the equator. Not that that works either because as mentioned before you must contend with not one but two pole stars, one for both northern and southern hemispheres.

    I am sure.

    Start from the top. Tell me how your model works with a literal rising and setting sun. It's your chance to shine!

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    The video above is thoroughly debunked in 4 thousand of the 5,282 comments on its Youtube page.............
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    Seriously??! Thousands of years of scientific and academic research by very intelligent astronomers has been completely debunked by a tattooed bloke in his two-bed semi in East Grinstead with a coin and non-matching table set from IKEA!??
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    Dude, bad example, my 7 year-old granddaughter even noticed the camera below the supposed earth! The extreme lack of common sense makes you guys look pathetic.
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    Me: If the world is flat, why do ships disappear over the horizon hull first and sail last?
    Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Okay. If the moon is small and close, why do people north of it and south of it see the same side and the same moon phase?
    Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Interesting. If the sun is always circling over the flat Earth, why does it sink below the horizon at night?
    Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Why do observers standing in different latitudes look in different directions to sight Polaris on your flat Earth?
    Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Got it. If the stars are all on a disk rotating counterclockwise around Polaris, why do people south of the equator see them rotate in the opposite direction, clockwise, around a southern celestial pole?
    Flat Earther: Perspective. By the way, if Earth were really a sphere with no dome over it, what would stop the air from escaping out into space?
    Me: Gravity.
    Flat Earther: Oh brother. You Globe-heads think gravity is the magic answer to everything!
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    There seems to be a correlation between how gullible people are and how much they believe in a god.
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    If the coin is representing the flat sun why is it vertical to the table.. it would be horizontal (parallel) to the flat earth shining down.... And you would not see the round part when the sun sets, you would see the flat coin edge of the sun.. therefore the sun is a around sphere.
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    [Termin] - Nope, you have the camera at a lower level than the sun. Secondly it was clear by the motion of your arm the "coin" was not moving in a circular path. [108 up-thumbs, 354 replies follow]
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    The camera was below the tabletop. And the coin was right on the table top. Everyone here knows full well that if you had the camera at the same level as the tabletop with the coin held above it, like you would see with the sun on the flat earth, it wouldn't have disappeared. Basic trigonometry shows that even at the farthest possible distance on the flat earth, the sun would still appear several degrees above the horizon. [548 up-thumbs followed by 493 replies]
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    I'm blown away to think that this thing he does with a camera below the table is supposed to convince me of something.
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    But it says "most undeniable proof" in the title.
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    Your experiment is wrong, camera lens needs to be perfectly in level with the table and in this case your camera is slightly beneath the table...you people know nothing about perspective and vanishing points, i study architecture i know what i'm talking about, things that are far away appear as they are closer to the ground/horizon but they will NEVER touch it nor cross it, the only thing that can be at exact same level as the horizon line is the thing that's exactly at your eye level, sun is obviously not at our eye level if it's 3,000 miles above ground...open Sketchup and draw flat earth model with the sun to scale and then lower yourself to human perspective even at 2,000 miles from the sun...the sun will be NOWHERE NEAR horizon line, it will be high in the sky and should be visible from any place on earth! [40 thumbs-up, 117 replies follow]
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    [7 months ago] To prove you're not an idiot please provide a link to an explanation of the physics of this model..  
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    I can wait. [no reply]
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    You have to place the camera at the same level of the table or the  other cameras under the ground to have an equal observation.
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    I was just having this argument with a co-worker. IF and this is a BIG IF, If the sun hovered above us in a circular pattern, over the "flat earth" then the sun would never touch the horizon at all.
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    As everyone here seems to agree - table top example fakes perspective by putting the camera below the level of the table.  And the illusion seen here of the Sun appearing smaller as it sets  is caused by glare, not the Sun's disk actually appearing smaller.  If perspective were really causing the Sun to appear to set (as Flat Earth "theory" states) the Sun's disk would appear to get steadily larger throughout the day as it rises and climbs, appearing largest at mid day and then gradually shrinking again as it descends.  The Moon would also display this appearance.  Neither the Sun nor the Moon shows any apparent difference in the size of its disk no matter where in the arc of the sky you observe them - as anyone who has ever looked knows - so it's very clear to anyone who thinks about this for even a moment that it's completely wrong.  Yet another nail in the coffin of the Flat Earth idea.
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    how do you explain that you can take a flight from Australia to south america in 9 hours? if the earth was flat this would have to travel faster than a concord. [20 up-thumbs, 32 replies follow]
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    Have another beer smoke another joint too much peyote or something
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    Look how beautifully the sun lights up the UNDERSIDE of the clouds!  Only on a globe earth the sun will sink below the horizon and shine UP on the clouds.
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    The usual thing you'd expect from a flat-earthling - a constructed lie to "prove" others are lying ...
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    First off... your camera is slightly below the table plane... second you need to hold the coin higher so it represents your FE 'sun' which is always above the plane of your earth... 3000 miles high as you people say.  That would be 6" above the table if it were 48" across!  Reproduce your 'test' in this manner and you will see the sun can never set nor rise LOL!! FE BUSTED!!
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    [Endzeit2014] oh Dude. I honestly praise and love You for what you are doing. It was man like you that give minds the chance to recover and see the TRUTH and know I understand the meaning of the bible...and thy truth will make you free...fantastic
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    [same postor, Endzeit2014] after I red the comments below I understand you. the (american) NWO is working hard against FE´s. here in europe they just hush up the topic. It would be too dangerous, too many people could wake up. Its so amazing: there really is a creator (not the  god  created/invented by the religions). This creator made everything and thats a overwhelming feeling. LIFE HAS A MEANING NOW !!! and thats not making lots of money or riding 24inch rims you sheeple. "REMEMBER BILL COOPER" killed by...
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    I too also believe in a Flat Earth because of the sun's rays coming down through the clouds in the late afternoon, spreading out into a measurable angle. We are NOT moving at 1000 miles per hour like the Masons claim we are. [66 up-thumbs, 88 replies follow]
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    [Jason Kalidas] your camera looks slightly below the table !!
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    [Video author replies and explains why camera is below the table -- username = Gift From God]
    +Jason Kalidas No matter what
    lenght it is from the ground to your eyes it will always LOOK as if it
    is actually at a higher ground from where you are standing due to the
    PERSPECTIVE and that is exactly WHY I have to have the camera slightly
    below the table so the edge of the table ends up in the middle of the
    camera/screen just as we see out in the real world at the horizon.
    Simple as that ;)
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1316 on: May 14, 2018, 09:12:47 PM »
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    Regarding one reply in particular to the video above:
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    I too also believe in a Flat Earth because of the sun's rays coming down through the clouds in the late afternoon, spreading out into a measurable angle. We are NOT moving at 1000 miles per hour like the Masons claim we are. [66 up-thumbs, 88 replies follow]
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    It seems he's referring to scenes like the following:
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    This implies that if the sun were proportionally much further away, we wouldn't see the rays diverging this quickly.
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    So if instead of clouds several miles away from the viewer, what if you have a wall only a few feet away?
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    Like this?
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    When the sun is far away compared to the breaks in the obstacle, whether it's cloud cover or a wall, the effect is the same.
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    It turns out, it makes no difference how far away the light source is.
    All that matters is the angle between the viewer and the light rays at each window
    If the photo were taken from below the light rays, such as from those pews, the rays would appear to shine upwards.
    Even though these rays come from the sun shining down toward the windows.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1317 on: May 14, 2018, 09:31:29 PM »
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    Regarding one reply in particular to the video above:
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    I too also believe in a Flat Earth because of the sun's rays coming down through the clouds in the late afternoon, spreading out into a measurable angle. We are NOT moving at 1000 miles per hour like the Masons claim we are. [66 up-thumbs, 88 replies follow]
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    It seems he's referring to scenes like the following:
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    This implies that if the sun were proportionally much further away, we wouldn't see the rays diverging this quickly.
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    So if instead of clouds several miles away from the viewer, what if you have a wall only a few feet away?
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    Like this?
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    When the sun is far away compared to the breaks in the obstacle, whether it's cloud cover or a wall, the effect is the same.
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    It turns out, it makes no difference how far away the light source is.
    All that matters is the angle between the viewer and the light rays at each window
    If the photo were taken from below the light rays, such as from those pews, the rays would appear to shine upwards.
    Even though these rays come from the sun shining down toward the windows.
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    ;D

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1318 on: May 15, 2018, 03:48:26 PM »
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    Finally, we have video of the DOME!!

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    If you didn't enjoy it, maybe you forgot to take your "meds" first. 
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #1319 on: May 15, 2018, 04:03:18 PM »
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  • This is such a fantastic, small scale, real world, easy-to-understand illustration of sunrise/sunset on the FE model and how it works.

    Croixalist should be strapped to a chair and forced to watch it 100 times until he understands it.

    It really is so very simple.

    I fear people who cannot understand this concept are suffering some sort of willful blindness.
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    No, this is a thoroughly debunked pile of nonsense, easily understood as just being nonsense. See above a few posts.
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    It tells a lot about flat-earthers when they get excited over transparently silly nonsense.
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    "The usual thing you'd expect from a flat-earthling - a constructed lie to "prove" others are lying ..."
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    In the author's own words: "No matter what 
    lenght [sic] it is from the ground to your eyes it will always LOOK as if it 
    is actually at a higher ground from where you are standing due to the 
    PERSPECTIVE and that is exactly WHY I have to have the camera slightly 
    below the table so the edge of the table ends up in the middle of the 
    camera/screen just as we see out in the real world at the horizon." 
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    You see, it's all due to PERSPECTIVE! The magic answer to everything!!
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    Me: If the world is flat, why do ships disappear over the horizon hull first and sail last? 
      Flat Earther: Perspective
    Me: Okay. If the moon is small and close, why do people north of it and south of it see the same side and the same moon phase?
      Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Interesting. If the sun is always circling over the flat Earth, why does it sink below the horizon at night? 
      Flat Earther: Perspective
    Me: Why do observers standing in different latitudes look in different directions to sight Polaris on your flat Earth?
      Flat Earther: Perspective.
    Me: Got it. If the stars are all on a disk rotating counterclockwise around Polaris, why do people south of the equator see them rotate in the opposite direction, clockwise, around a southern celestial pole?
      Flat Earther: Perspective
      -- By the way, if Earth were really a sphere with no dome over it, what would stop the air from escaping out into space?
    Me: Gravity.
      Flat Earther: Oh brother. You Globe-heads think gravity is the magic answer to everything!
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