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Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #885 on: August 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM »
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  • Don't talk to me or any else about this subject till you do.




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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #886 on: August 15, 2017, 11:59:12 AM »
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    Yeah. Pride. Predictable. all fun and games until you burn in Hell forever.


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #887 on: August 15, 2017, 05:01:53 PM »
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  • The practical side of flat earth
    [Attached presentation-slide:]
    NOW DO YOU SEE WHY THEY ARE LYING?

    Not at all.  Your claims are discredited by the non sequiturs in your presentation-slide.  And whodat "THEY"?

    THE GLOBE
    The foundation for Evolution,

    Am I to believe that Charles Darwin's historic voyage in the Beagle couldn't have been made over the oceans of a Flat Earth??  Or are you tacitly conceding that a Flat Earth would've forced that ship over the Edge before Darwin could return to England and publish his theories?

    the Big Bang,

    Mere theory, altho' not completely lacking in evidence.  But an omnipotent God could certainly have the primary role in a Big Bang "created" from what was "waste and void" (Gen. 1:1--2).  Don't expect to find the technical terms of (nuclear) particle-physics in the surviving writings of the ancient Hebrews.

    alien seeding,

    A theory not elevated much above fantasy.  It would most charitably be called "silly".  Altho' it has had entertainment value, e.g., as the basis for a double episode of Star Trek--Next Generation.

    atheism,
    paganism,
    the occult,

    Non sequitur! Paganism was plenty well developed, with many centuries of history, featuring celestial sun-chariots (Chronos & Ra?), world-supporting turtles, a huge Nordic tree & snake/dragon, all or most being layers of flatness, some of which either supported or traversed star-studded hemispheres, centuries before the Christ walked the Earth.

    THE FLAT EARTH
    Described in the Bible,
    validates the Bible,

    Only what's confirmed by a scientific consensus in cosmology to be literally--i.e., physically true would count toward "validat[ing] the Bible".

    scientifically proven,

    Nonsense: The claim of "pro[of]" is wishful thinking by you and your allies.  And to make them, you routinely ignore or reject scientific observations that can be made by ordinary but  observant and intellectually honest men.

    points to God alone as Creator,

    More nonsense: That's because God is omnipotent; He is certainly not limited to being the Creator of a Flat Earth.  He is certainly capable of being the Creator of a heliocentric system featuring a spherical Earth equipped with gravity, if that's what He wanted.  Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of His omnipotence is that He either did--or could have--created the physical rules by which the universe operates.  Or do you believe, deep down, that the Catholic doctrine of Divine omnipotence is just an exaggeration that's taught in parochial schools, along with omniscience, to inspire or intimidate impressionable children?

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #888 on: August 15, 2017, 05:58:28 PM »
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  • It has been to a large degree in the past 500 hundred years that enemies of the Church have used modern discoveries contrasted with longstanding customary cosmology to "prove" that the Church had been "wrong" all these millennia and so has been the Bible, and if they can be wrong on one point, then they could be wrong about everything. This is why we have so many atheists in scientific professions today.

    Do you want an example? Lawrence Krauss, professor of theoretical physics and cosmologist, Arizona State University, who is openly proud to be atheist, who says it gives him "great joy" to think that when he dies, his life is over and there is no afterlife because that way he has all the more reason to live life to its fullest here and now.


    According to Krauss, the Catholic Church has taught that the earth is "flat" in the past, but he's happy to see that's changing. I beg to differ. The Church has never taught the earth is "flat" but by perpetuating this myth, Krauss is a lot like the flat-earthers of these present days, including Eric Dubay, a NewAge chakra-preaching flat-earther, who claims to be "one with God."

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    Practical side/Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #889 on: August 15, 2017, 06:01:01 PM »
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  • The practical side of flat earth
    [Attached presentation-slide:]

    THE GLOBE
    The foundation for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr,
    and Satanic world control

    THE FLAT EARTH
    [...] blows Satan's deception wide open

    Non sequitur!
    You and your allies insist that all readers believe that the Earth is already flat.  Yet on such an Earth, we have no shortage of "Satan's deception": Hollywood, Freemasons, Marxists, Wiccans, Bilderbergers ("nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr"), and perverse "gender-identity" NGOs.

    Plus widespread sodomite infiltration of seminaries that created a deterrent to vocations by "Good Men".

    And a modernist nominally "Catholic" episcopal hierarchy that not only tolerates--but also accomodates & shields--rampant pedophilia, now encouraging feminist infiltration of the Catholic ministry as a solution to the "crisis in vocations" which the same hierarchy allowed to fester, and demonstrates Satanic zeal in its intolerance toward traditional Catholicism, manifested by vandalizing--or even demolishing--its holy churches.  Meanwhile pandering to infidel-by-definition Jews and Muslims.


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #890 on: August 15, 2017, 09:48:37 PM »
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  • An absolute blast!
    The 6th grader admits to having an absolute blast in her 6th grade sand box. Cute.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #891 on: August 15, 2017, 09:50:32 PM »
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  • Maybe sunspots are too much for 6th graders.
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    Are there any high school or college students out there, or perhaps some adults, who can explain sunspots?
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #892 on: August 15, 2017, 10:08:56 PM »
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  • Maybe sunspots are too much for 6th graders.
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    Are there any high school or college students out there, or perhaps some adults, who can explain sunspots?
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    EMPIRICALLY MEASURABLE EM void typically heralding heralding plasmic ejecta like the negative pressure area of a straw?

    2b fair, and not assume airs, I rarely did homework anf barely cleared HS.


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #893 on: August 15, 2017, 10:16:39 PM »
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  • EMPIRICALLY MEASURABLE EM void typically heralding heralding plasmic ejecta like the negative pressure area of a straw?

    2b fair, and not assume airs, I rarely did homework anf barely cleared HS.
    PS: pls keyword search in order to establish whether or not Ib c/ped my response from some fruitcake or not.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #894 on: August 15, 2017, 11:57:50 PM »
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  • Are there any high school or college students out there, 
    or perhaps some adults, who can explain sunspots?

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #895 on: August 16, 2017, 05:24:12 AM »
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  • I agree happenby, but the globe-earthers here don't appear to care about scripture, and how it relates to shape of the earth.

    And yes, a globe earth does indeed lend itself to heresies and malformation of God's laws, but again, the globe-earthers don't want to think about it.
    Or maybe, for just one REAL WORLD IF WE SCREW THIS UP WE DIE example, a submerged object plots a >>3D/720` course "as if" the world is "spherical" and, what a strange mystery, the distance is significantly less between two known surface point than than if shortest surface plot were taken.

    man flatland is one big game of ad-hockey.… stupid quadrivium… stupid geometry… stupid metaphysic certitude.


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #896 on: August 16, 2017, 05:51:17 AM »
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  • Maybe sunspots are too much for 6th graders.
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    Are there any high school or college students out there, or perhaps some adults, who can explain sunspots?
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    Guess not.

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    Sunspots? Bah!/Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #897 on: August 16, 2017, 10:00:57 AM »
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  • Are there any high school or college students out there, or perhaps some adults, who can explain sunspots?

    Perhaps the adults who had the good sense to acquire better-than-average-U.S. scientific knowledge are exercising the good judgment to respond with a private thought: "Why bother?"  Why waste their own time on something that's off-topic and irrelevant to what its Subject plainly identifies as yet another overly long "Earth Is Not Flat[--Is So!]" topic.  A topic in which their continued expenditure of personal time is becoming increasingly difficult to justify.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #898 on: August 16, 2017, 07:43:19 PM »
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  • It has been to a large degree in the past 500 hundred years that enemies of the Church have used modern discoveries contrasted with longstanding customary cosmology to "prove" that the Church had been "wrong" all these millennia and so has been the Bible, and if they can be wrong on one point, then they could be wrong about everything. This is why we have so many atheists in scientific professions today.

    Do you want an example? Lawrence Krauss, professor of theoretical physics and cosmologist, Arizona State University, who is openly proud to be atheist, who says it gives him "great joy" to think that when he dies, his life is over and there is no afterlife because that way he has all the more reason to live life to its fullest here and now.


    According to Krauss, the Catholic Church has taught that the earth is "flat" in the past, but he's happy to see that's changing. I beg to differ. The Church has never taught the earth is "flat" but by perpetuating this myth, Krauss is a lot like the flat-earthers of these present days, including Eric Dubay, a NewAge chakra-preaching flat-earther, who claims to be "one with God."


    The Church ONLY taught geocentric flat earth. 

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #899 on: August 16, 2017, 07:46:58 PM »
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  • Not at all.  Your claims are discredited by the non sequiturs in your presentation-slide.  And whodat "THEY"?

    Am I to believe that Charles Darwin's historic voyage in the Beagle couldn't have been made over the oceans of a Flat Earth??  Or are you tacitly conceding that a Flat Earth would've forced that ship over the Edge before Darwin could return to England and publish his theories?

    Mere theory, altho' not completely lacking in evidence.  But an omnipotent God could certainly have the primary role in a Big Bang "created" from what was "waste and void" (Gen. 1:1--2).  Don't expect to find the technical terms of (nuclear) particle-physics in the surviving writings of the ancient Hebrews.

    A theory not elevated much above fantasy.  It would most charitably be called "silly".  Altho' it has had entertainment value, e.g., as the basis for a double episode of Star Trek--Next Generation.

    Non sequitur! Paganism was plenty well developed, with many centuries of history, featuring celestial sun-chariots (Chronos & Ra?), world-supporting turtles, a huge Nordic tree & snake/dragon, all or most being layers of flatness, some of which either supported or traversed star-studded hemispheres, centuries before the Christ walked the Earth.

    Only what's confirmed by a scientific consensus in cosmology to be literally--i.e., physically true would count toward "validat[ing] the Bible".

    Nonsense: The claim of "pro[of]" is wishful thinking by you and your allies.  And to make them, you routinely ignore or reject scientific observations that can be made by ordinary but  observant and intellectually honest men.

    More nonsense: That's because God is omnipotent; He is certainly not limited to being the Creator of a Flat Earth.  He is certainly capable of being the Creator of a heliocentric system featuring a spherical Earth equipped with gravity, if that's what He wanted.  Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of His omnipotence is that He either did--or could have--created the physical rules by which the universe operates.  Or do you believe, deep down, that the Catholic doctrine of Divine omnipotence is just an exaggeration that's taught in parochial schools, along with omniscience, to inspire or intimidate impressionable children?
    The problem with all of your answers is that they are in contrast with Catholic teaching on the subject and deny scripture. The creator could have designed abother system, but the fact is, He did not. Proven by science, scripture and Catholic teaching. Heliocentric theory was directly condemned in 1633.