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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #750 on: July 30, 2017, 04:31:39 PM »
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  • Obviously a fake video. But then that's what NASA produces. If the pause button on the video is pressed, we can see that the continents are in the wrong places for a "globe" earth.

    Africa is WAY too far north, and Canada is at the North Pole.
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    Have you considered perhaps you're mistaking Greenland for Africa and Canada for the arctic circle?
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    Another flat-earther earlier in the thread accused inaccuracy for the Sinai peninsula, when she was actually looking at a photo of the Arabian peninsula, which included Sinai as a tiny part of the upper left side. She had no idea how to read the scale legend.
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    It's a good idea to learn how to identify what you're looking at before you try to criticize it.
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    In THIS video, the camera is close to earth which distorts the scale. If you have paid attention, you would see that the view is directly over the equator, but you can only see about 45 degrees north and south. For example, you never get a look at Australia, nor do you ever see Greenland, so Canada appears to be at the north pole but that's because you can't see that far north from this vantage point. The earth is a very big place, after all.
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    The First Quarter moon happened today. In the western states, it was at 8:23 am and that means the moon was not visible yet. Even this afternoon at 2:00 the moon was not yet visible, after it rose at 12:10 pm, probably due to the heavy haze in the high noon eastern sky. So this was not a good day to view the sun and moon together at the minute of the Quarter moon.
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    And the next one will be Aug. 14th, at 6:16 pm, which won't be a good time, again, since the sun will be close to setting but the moon will have set at 1:07 pm, so it will be below the horizon over 5 hours.
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    There are about 26 possible viewings of the first and/or last quarter moons every year. Out of these, only about a fourth are likely good viewings, since there are four possible orientations for the sun and moon at any given time. So in a year you'll only get about 6 or 7 good views of the sun and moon in the sky when the moon achieves its quarter moon phase. Out of those, about half may well be in cloudy skies, perhaps more.  Therefore, when a good opportunity presents itself, it's a good idea to not let it slip by.
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    Incidentally, next month on the 21st, a once in a lifetime opportunity will present itself.
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    We ought to be praying for safe environments for the millions of visitors who are due to descend on the numerous remote areas along the path of the umbra of totality. With crowds that dense, if there is any kind of emergency the traffic jams will be impassible. They'll have to resort to helicopters.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #751 on: July 30, 2017, 05:00:49 PM »
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  • International Space Station, over 10 million views..

    In minutes 14, 15 and 16 they provide shots out of the cupola -- earth, complete with curvature.



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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #752 on: July 30, 2017, 05:32:53 PM »
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  • Hey Neil!

    Do you like my picture?





    Oh and in case anyone is wondering why no one is responding to Neil it is because it has all been responded to already, he just keeps trolling. You can do a post search of his profile and see how he can't be reasoned with.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #753 on: July 30, 2017, 06:41:08 PM »
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  • Silly trolls. Can't prove your assertion so you resort to fallacious tactics.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #754 on: August 01, 2017, 12:07:15 AM »
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  • Silly trolls. Can't prove your assertion so you resort to fallacious tactics.
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    Hey, how about moosey's photo of the "dome?" Ain't that something?
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    You've missed your chance to make an objective observation again, but resort to ad-hominems as usual?
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    Surprise, surprise. *not*  ::)
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #755 on: August 01, 2017, 12:13:40 AM »
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  • International Space Station, over 10 million views..

    In minutes 14, 15 and 16 they provide shots out of the cupola -- earth, complete with curvature.


    Question: How do they get a wide-angle view of what's outside the window when the same shot of what's inside the window shows no such perspective? 
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #756 on: August 01, 2017, 12:39:01 AM »
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    Have you considered perhaps you're mistaking Greenland for Africa and Canada for the arctic circle?
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    Another flat-earther earlier in the thread accused inaccuracy for the Sinai peninsula, when she was actually looking at a photo of the Arabian peninsula, which included Sinai as a tiny part of the upper left side. She had no idea how to read the scale legend.
    .
    It's a good idea to learn how to identify what you're looking at before you try to criticize it.
    .
    In THIS video, the camera is close to earth which distorts the scale. If you have paid attention, you would see that the view is directly over the equator, but you can only see about 45 degrees north and south. For example, you never get a look at Australia, nor do you ever see Greenland, so Canada appears to be at the north pole but that's because you can't see that far north from this vantage point. The earth is a very big place, after all.
    .
    The First Quarter moon happened today. In the western states, it was at 8:23 am and that means the moon was not visible yet. Even this afternoon at 2:00 the moon was not yet visible, after it rose at 12:10 pm, probably due to the heavy haze in the high noon eastern sky. So this was not a good day to view the sun and moon together at the minute of the Quarter moon.
    .
    And the next one will be Aug. 14th, at 6:16 pm, which won't be a good time, again, since the sun will be close to setting but the moon will have set at 1:07 pm, so it will be below the horizon over 5 hours.
    .
    There are about 26 possible viewings of the first and/or last quarter moons every year. Out of these, only about a fourth are likely good viewings, since there are four possible orientations for the sun and moon at any given time. So in a year you'll only get about 6 or 7 good views of the sun and moon in the sky when the moon achieves its quarter moon phase. Out of those, about half may well be in cloudy skies, perhaps more.  Therefore, when a good opportunity presents itself, it's a good idea to not let it slip by.
    .
    Incidentally, next month on the 21st, a once in a lifetime opportunity will present itself.
    .
    We ought to be praying for safe environments for the millions of visitors who are due to descend on the numerous remote areas along the path of the umbra of totality. With crowds that dense, if there is any kind of emergency the traffic jams will be impassible. They'll have to resort to helicopters.
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    Nasa admits these images are not photos, but artist conceptions.  Naturally.  Earth is not a globe.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #757 on: August 01, 2017, 12:52:12 AM »
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  • International Space Station, over 10 million views..

    In minutes 14, 15 and 16 they provide shots out of the cupola -- earth, complete with curvature.


    Follow the curve shown to complete a ball using the picture provided.  The completed sphere would be a wee bit too small to be the earth. Trying to represent curvature of the earth 25,000 mi around using this ridiculous fish eye curve is so juvenile it boggles the mind.  


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #758 on: August 01, 2017, 01:06:47 AM »
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    Hey, how about moosey's photo of the "dome?" Ain't that something?
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    You've missed your chance to make an objective observation again, but resort to ad-hominems as usual?
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    Surprise, surprise. *not*  ::)
    I apologize 
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #759 on: August 01, 2017, 04:52:31 AM »
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  • Flat-earthers today are apparently unfit to learn the truth. Like a growing mass of modern minds today are so incapable any longer of thinking or reasoning that any attempt to dispel their errors can seem to risk only increasing their confusion. For how many times has this simple experiment been replied to with nothing but snide ad-hominems of derision and disrespect? They're all on record. Flat-earthers persistently rely on their laundry list of false maxims and erroneous precepts, none of which they are apparently capable of recognizing their falsehood. For them, their erroneous principles are non-negotiables, as it were dogma. That is, dogmatic error!
     
    It takes a special grace today for modern man to understand what to one may seem evident via unbiased observation. People just don't understand things  today. They don't have ears to hear. The Holy Ghost enlightens different souls at different speeds. You or I can crash into a soul thinking they should understand, for example by requesting of them to measure the angle between the sun and moon at the minute of the moon's quarter phase, as we think they're going to understand, when we try to tell it like it is, and they just push us off. The moment has not come for them yet. The moment maybe will come one day.
     
    In the meantime, it is their hardened will that stands in the way, blocking their understanding. It's like walking with someone down the way, someone who does not want to approach the destination that lies in the distance ahead;  that same someone will choose to take a right turn, or a left turn, for no apparent reason. When you or I ask them why they are turning off the path, we will hear them say any of many possible explanations, but none of them will admit to the truth, which is the following:  They have chosen to turn off the path, the "narrow way" that leads to salvation, because they know what is coming up ahead if they were to remain in that path, and not wanting to be face to face with that objective decision up ahead, instead, they choose to divert their route elsewhere, to avoid the inevitable. This fierce determined resistance to the inevitable truth is what they have set up to obstruct their understanding and realization of the truth, the truth they simply will not accept.
     

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #760 on: August 01, 2017, 10:27:10 AM »
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  • Flat-earthers today are apparently unfit to learn the truth. Like a growing mass of modern minds today are so incapable any longer of thinking or reasoning that any attempt to dispel their errors can seem to risk only increasing their confusion. For how many times has this simple experiment been replied to with nothing but snide ad-hominems of derision and disrespect? They're all on record. Flat-earthers persistently rely on their laundry list of false maxims and erroneous precepts, none of which they are apparently capable of recognizing their falsehood. For them, their erroneous principles are non-negotiables, as it were dogma. That is, dogmatic error!
     
    It takes a special grace today for modern man to understand what to one may seem evident via unbiased observation. People just don't understand things  today. They don't have ears to hear. The Holy Ghost enlightens different souls at different speeds. You or I can crash into a soul thinking they should understand, for example by requesting of them to measure the angle between the sun and moon at the minute of the moon's quarter phase, as we think they're going to understand, when we try to tell it like it is, and they just push us off. The moment has not come for them yet. The moment maybe will come one day.
     
    In the meantime, it is their hardened will that stands in the way, blocking their understanding. It's like walking with someone down the way, someone who does not want to approach the destination that lies in the distance ahead;  that same someone will choose to take a right turn, or a left turn, for no apparent reason. When you or I ask them why they are turning off the path, we will hear them say any of many possible explanations, but none of them will admit to the truth, which is the following:  They have chosen to turn off the path, the "narrow way" that leads to salvation, because they know what is coming up ahead if they were to remain in that path, and not wanting to be face to face with that objective decision up ahead, instead, they choose to divert their route elsewhere, to avoid the inevitable. This fierce determined resistance to the inevitable truth is what they have set up to obstruct their understanding and realization of the truth, the truth they simply will not accept.
     

    Just a couple of questions on what you've written above.

    You say that...."The Holy Ghost enlightens souls at different speeds."
    Neil, do you believe that the Holy Ghost gives you (or enlightens you) with information regarding the shape of the earth? I'm not joking. I really would like to know the answer.

    You also wrote...."They have chosen to turn off the path, the "narrow way" that leads to salvation, because they know what is up ahead if they were to remain in that path [...]."
    Neil, Do you believe that it's necessary to believe in a ball-shaped earth in order to attain salvation?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #761 on: August 01, 2017, 10:31:34 AM »
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  • Hey Neil!

    Do you like my picture?





    Oh and in case anyone is wondering why no one is responding to Neil it is because it has all been responded to already, he just keeps trolling. You can do a post search of his profile and see how he can't be reasoned with.
    LMAO at the twit with 3 posts accusing Neil of "trolling."  Flat-earthers live in their own flat little world.  Maybe flat earth can be their safe space.   :jester:

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #762 on: August 01, 2017, 10:53:01 AM »
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  • Typical response of globalists.  No content, proof, or reason in this comment, just disparaging remarks in defense of the heliocentric religion.
    religion


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    I am an anti-globalist who detests seeing extreme idiotic nonsense assertions masquerading as "anti-globalist" and discrediting the movement and its legitimate issues.  Making anti-globalists look like silly toothless backward people is the MO of the jew & it's NWO allies.  Is this what you are, or are you an unwitting pawn?

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #763 on: August 01, 2017, 04:26:09 PM »
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  • International Space Station, over 10 million views..

    In minutes 14, 15 and 16 they provide shots out of the cupola -- earth, complete with curvature.


    Thank you Neil for hanging in there despite the onslaught of flathead screwtape demoralization coming our way. I have a special challenge for all supposedly "genuine" flatearthers: in light of this video and well everything else we know about the international space scene out there, can you please be sure to include Roscosmos along with Nasa every time you want to slam a space agency? In theory, you ought to be slamming all of these agencies. Considering how deeply involved Russia is in this area, I don't see a reason for leaving them out. Thanks!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #764 on: August 01, 2017, 05:25:13 PM »
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  • I apologize
    To be clear, I was not referring to you Neil, but you are correct, I should not have lost patience with the proponents of this flat earth orientation. Sorry
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